Would you report someone for smoking with their child in the car?

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Just walked past a woman waiting in her car for infant school gates to open. There was a child in the front seat. She was blowing her smoke out the window and I looked round because I could smell it and wondered where it was coming from.

Or should I just mind my own business?

She was blowing her smoke out the window - is it therefore still technically a crime? What if she had got out of the car to smoke the cigarette? Is that still a crime?

I'm starting to think YOU are the mother in the car!

You would. Your startling lack of logic is only matched by your silliness.

So depressing that people can't understand such basic principles.

See crime - report crime

Surely that's basic logic?

Sorry I'm depressing you, have a or maybe a

There's literally nothing I could say, evidence to give, argument to put forward that you wouldn't disagree with so I think it's now a moot point and this thread is going nowhere.

I'm out (but I'm sure you'll get the last word in)

Enjoy!

French Do you report people for speeding? Or littering? Or dog fouling? I'm curious as to how much you would report?

And those of you that would report would you be happy to provide a statement and possibly have to go to court and give evidence?

Because without that nothing will happen when you report minor crimes. The police need your evidence for any proceedings.

Bastardsgodarkly apparently so?! That's what her sw told her.

See crime - report crime Surely that's basic logic?

No. See "crime" but have no idea who the criminal is, and there is no way for any enforcement to take place: don't report "crime".
THAT is basic logic.

There's literally nothing I could say, evidence to give, argument to put forward that....would make sense. You got it.

user It's not up to the reporter of the crime to identify the person reponsible and that shouldn't put someone off reporting a crime.

User, you really are thoroughly unpleasant, aren't you? Have some manners in how you reply to others.

Take the registration down, take a photo, get witnesses. Do whatever you can do to make sure it's reported.

I personally wouldn't call the police about litter or dog mess, I'd tell the person directly. A mother smoking in her car with the child, though? I don't want to smell that stench thank you very much.

It IS for them to understand that for such minor crimes there is no-one else who can or will identify them, and yes it should put them off reporting.
Report actual crimes, not things you don't like that were legislated against to make you like them even less.
Does no-one get that there is a spectrum of crime? They aren't all equal? I'm not suggesting you do nothing if you see someone rob a liquor store!

Take the registration down, take a photo, get witnesses. Do whatever you can do to make sure it's reported

You really do want a badge of some kind, don't you? PC Phyllis, on the beat! Take photos and get witnesses....what are you on?

user I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment but I just wanted to put across that the lack of identity is NOT a reason for a person to not report something (regardless of how minor we think it is).

Phylis To answer my question, would you be willing to possibly attend court if you witnessed this offence?

Nicknacky, absolutely. I've attended court a few times already.

Fair enough, without witnesses no proceedings can be taken.

I'm not one to chuck accusations around at other users, as I've had it done plenty to me before, but it wouldn't surprise me if you are indeed 'hotdog mum'

Given that hotdog mum bears every appearance of being an unpleasant racist, that is a stunningly offensive thing to say, Phyllis.

I don't know why some get so upset by the idea that you would report an offence to the police. That doesn't mean not understanding a spectrum of offences etc just reporting. Nor does it mean id be outraged if there isnt much follow up. It's for the police to decide what they'll do with that information. And reporting an offence the v few times I've done it isn't necessarily onerous. Brief details an address and phone number. I gave evidence once for a suspected child abduction and of course that was more intensive as it should be.
As for why then don't you report speeding or littering. I guess it is a bit haphazard but for speeding I'd hope other traffic measures pick that up like speed cameras. Littering and dog mess - there's the problem of not being able to id people. I have reported a persiatrnt dog fouler once as i knew the address. Called police and local council and it actually stopped happening. What was done if anything i don't know.
I feel a bit more strongly about people who smoke know cars with children because it damages children's health. Id certainly report if there was the unlikely combination of seeing that when ive a chance to write down a reg number. I probably would report it. It's a nasty harmful thing to follow your children. There's a law to address it so why wouldn't I? I don't necessary expect much would happen but that's irrelevant to my decision to report.

@Ceto, that user was in the hotdog mum thread, standing up for the hotdog mum. That is why I said it.

Absolutely agree with everything you've said, @lasttimeround

I'm deeply curious about what/who hot dog mum is but I need to stop getting dragged into mumsnet.

@Ceto, that user was in the hotdog mum thread, standing up for the hotdog mum. That is why I said it

She was not. No need to stoop to lies just because you haven't an original thought in your head

You were?! I can't prove it because the thread has now been deleted, but I copied your name with all the numbers earlier and cross checked it. It was you, you're obviously a troll.

And stop being so offensive. If you were genuinely trying to get your point across then you wouldn't result to childish insults.

You can't prove it because it isn't true. You think like a five year old.

You think that because I have told you that you can't in any effective manner report a random person for smoking that I am on the side of the smoker. WRONG.
You think that because I pointed out that the school has no real jurisdiction over the private texts of school mothers and their arguments, that I was on the side of hotdog mum. WRONG.

Like a child, you think there are only polar opposing sides to any debate or argument. I am on neither side, I am merely pointing out actual facts.
Why you have such trouble with facts is beyond me, but you're hardly alone in your inability to understand how logic works.

I can take a registration, I can take a photo & if there were other people with me, I could use them as witnesses. It's illegal and it is my right to be able to report it. What the police do with it is an entirely different matter.

A number of people in that thread presumed you were on the side of the parent. They also pointed out how you seemed to go into the thread head first without knowing all your facts. It appeared that you had not read both threads.

As for whether you are on the side of the parent and the smoker, you seem so adamant to defend your argument agressively. You chuck childish insults and lower yourself by being personal, and every reply of yours seems to lack any sort of emotional intelligence.