Smoking outside cafés?

[PuntCuffin]

Took my boys out to a local country park this morning. Decided we would have lunch while we were there so got ourselves settled at an outside table at the park café. We had our dog with us (as did many other families) so could not have gone inside.

Halfway through our meal, another family sat at the neighbouring table and both adults proceeded to light up cigarettes. So, we ended up with smoke wafting across us. Both boys stopped eating pretty much immediately, and started saying they felt sick. (Yes, they are probably hypersensitive but, it was pretty grim.) I gave up on trying to convince them to finish their lunch and we left the area, as did another family who hadn't finished their meals either.

There were no ashtrays on the tables, so the café clearly don't endorse smoking there.

AIBU to think this is a) Fucking inconsiderate behaviour and b) to be amazed that it is legal to smoke round an area where people are eating, even if it is outside.

I'd much rather sit near a smoker than a dog.

It's spppprrriiinnnng
It's been sooooo long since the last smoking thread.

It's frothing and everything

SpreadYourHappiness yes, indeed, I won't be confused. You, however, will still be rude.

StillStayingClassySanDiego I never said it would happen. There's far too much money in the industry. It's what should happen, though.

usernumbernine Pointing out hat smokers are selfishly harming others around them is not rude, it's fact.

usernumbernine younger son is 6. I don't suppose he knows queasy or nausea as words. He just 'mummy, that smell makes me feel sick'.

As for the dog, I agree that not everyone likes them. But this thread isn't about dogs.

SpreadYourHappiness that's not what you were doing when you were having a dig at my use of language though, is it? You were taking a pot shot and being rude. That's fact too.

usernumbernine I'm quite worried for you if you find that rude. There was no dig. How do you survive in the world?

But the thread is about dogs. The fact you had a dog, meant you couldn't go inside to the non-smoking area, where there wouldn't be smokers.

"Yes but outdoor dining areas are not smoking areas, are they? "

If it was marked a a non-smoking area, then a staff member should have taken it up with them.

But in general, outdoors is the smoking area. So those who want to avoid it have the whole of the indoors to use - just as they have whether it's 20 degrees and sunny or 1 degree and drizzling.

SpreadYourHappiness

How is there a massive difference?
Someone who.is intoxicated fron drinking to much can start fights and so on causing people to end up hospital. Can drink to much and end up in hospital. And its kust as addictive as smoking. Id rather have someone smoking a fag near my kid then a stumbling drunk.

Dog attacks are not uncommon, plus many people have allergies best get all them pesky mutts put down.

Nuts can cause potentially cause people to die. Best get the pitch forks out and ban the nuts.

Smokers cause passive smoking and harm and yes cancer and death

But as said above all the others can cause death and harm.

Monkeydust I stand by what I said.

Oh I survive quite well thank you :) I don't smoke, don't really drink either and I have a dog. Who I manage to take out and about without having to froth about it on here. You might want to try being a bit more like me, your blood pressure will thank you.

Why should the dog have to go without exercise or be tied up outside (given there are facilities)?

I'd much rather eat next to a dog than someone blowing out toxic smoke, a dog can't give me cancer.

usernumbernine I don't smoke, drink or have a dog. I'd rather jump off a cliff than be anything like you

SpreadYourHappiness I think implying that another poster should commit suicide is against talk guidelines. Even with a passive aggressive smiley.

Spreadyourhappiness doesn't really live up to their username.

usernumbernine What are you talking about? I haven't implied anywhere that anyone should commit suicide

If you were anything like me, you'd jump off a cliff.

So, given that I am me, I should go and jump off a cliff.

Commit suicide.

Nice. Real nice.

And I'm sure you'll not be surprised to learn that, having been told I should go and commit suicide by jumping off a cliff, I am going to leave you to your froth on this thread. That was pure nasty and very unwarranted. It is possible to disagree without being so horrible as to wish another poster would commit suicide.

usernumbernine Nope, that is not what is implied there, but if you want to read that into it, you go ahead and do so.

usernumbernine did you miss where I said the smokers weren't eating? There was absolutely no need for them to come and sit right next to those who were, whether with or without a dog. If they wanted a smoke before a meal, there could have done that before coming into the fenced off seating area.

Of course not, dear. You would say that wouldn't you.

Pathetic.