Smoking outside cafés?

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Took my boys out to a local country park this morning. Decided we would have lunch while we were there so got ourselves settled at an outside table at the park café. We had our dog with us (as did many other families) so could not have gone inside.

Halfway through our meal, another family sat at the neighbouring table and both adults proceeded to light up cigarettes. So, we ended up with smoke wafting across us. Both boys stopped eating pretty much immediately, and started saying they felt sick. (Yes, they are probably hypersensitive but, it was pretty grim.) I gave up on trying to convince them to finish their lunch and we left the area, as did another family who hadn't finished their meals either.

There were no ashtrays on the tables, so the café clearly don't endorse smoking there.

AIBU to think this is a) Fucking inconsiderate behaviour and b) to be amazed that it is legal to smoke round an area where people are eating, even if it is outside.

I read this morning that smokers have lungs that are damaged in such a way that it makes them the equivalent of 20 years older than their actual age.

Not sure that's always true otherwise my Aunt would have 115 year old lungs, my Uncle 103 year old lungs and my MIL 105 year old ones (unrelated)

That is impressive phyllis no breathing in public places. I like it

Perhaps teach others the skill, run classes etc...

I hold my breath when coming in and out of doors of shops, cafes, restaurants & pubs/bars (not that I go in the latter at the moment).

Yes because you're pregnant.

I see more vaping than I do smoking now anyway. It's definitely a dying thing. What will be the next acceptable thing to pour venom on do you think?

Another breath-holder here

Jacques I have done an internet search but can't find any online list of pubs with smoke free gardens in UK - do you know of one? TIA

I was in Berlin not so long ago and went to bars where there was a designated smoking room with glass walls and very little if any smoke smell escaped. I was told the smoke laden air from inside was extracted, cleaned and released. That didn't get rid of the smoke smell on the person when they came out of the room into the main part of the pub, of course.

phyllis

Why do you hold your breath when going in and out of places where smoking isn't allowed?

rhonda because people stand at the door smoking. Like hospital entrances.

Since when was a beer garden a "gimmick"?

Since you're in a northern very industrial town when the majority of pubs are on the Main Road and are pubs apeing back to a working man's club age.

Total USP especially as it's no smoking anywhere around the pub's land so you don't even have to leave through a fug. It's lovely

Theory yeah - one in my town. He's opening chains throughout the North though (has two, buying a further 5 so far) so hopefully becomes more widespread

What will be the next acceptable thing to pour venom on do you think

Well the next gross habit that impinges on other people's enjoyment of places? Can't think of another, can you?

Well the next gross habit that impinges on other people's enjoyment of places? Can't think of another, can you?

People getting drunk

Anti social behaviour

To name two.

rhonda because people stand at the door smoking. Like hospital entrances.

I have to say I've never seen anyone smoking at the entrance of our hospital (and I'm a bit of a frequent flyer there) and definitely not at the entrances to shops and restaurants.

This morning in fact, I walked past a mother with a child in a pram smoking directly next to the corner shop that I needed to walk into.

Well the next gross habit that impinges on other people's enjoyment of places? Can't think of another, can you?

Well no but then smoking outside doesn't bother me one little bit. The whiners are far more likely to find something than me.

I was in Berlin not so long ago and went to bars where there was a designated smoking room with glass walls and very little if any smoke smell escaped. I was told the smoke laden air from inside was extracted, cleaned and released. That didn't get rid of the smoke smell on the person when they came out of the room into the main part of the pub, of course.

I fly a lot and many of the airport lounges I've used have those as well. The smoke escapes when the doors open and close and I can safely report that they don't really work well and make the whole lounge smell faintly of smoke, not as bad as the smoking room but bad enough. There is one in particular that I have stopped using altogether now as it's awful.

It pisses me off because it's great to have access to an airport lounge, only to have it ruined by a smoking room within it, rather than outside down a separate corridor. I end up milling around outside with everyone else which is annoying when you have access to a lounge and the gin.

I'm on the fence about this. I am a non-smoker, and find the smell of cigarettes nauseating, and I really don't want to smell it while I am eating.

But the smokers have been driven out of pretty much every public place, and I now have a wide choice of smoke free places to spend my time, and to enjoy meals, so it doesn't seem fair to want to drive the smokers away from outdoor eating areas as well.

Phyllis you do have a tendency to be really over dramatic on posts today are you okay?

Well, my husband says I'm highly strung, but I don't particularly see it that way. I just have things that I'm concerned about.

I have too many times seen people smoke directly by the door, to the point that the premises ends up smelling of smoke.

phyllis if your husband says you're highly strung then you probably are a tad