Another - huh is this racist???

[Evelight]

Said by 60 yr old white male school staff to 14 yr old white upper mc boy:

"Take your hoodie down, it's against the dress code - you'll grow up to become a rapper".

???!!!

Rapper may have been used pejoratively as in lower class, uneducated yoof. That makes teacher a snob not a racist.

Unless 'mc' meant 'master of ceremonies'

This isn't any old hoodie.

This is an upper, middle class, hoodie.

As in MC Doug E Fresh??

Not just mc but upper mc. As if that makes a difference

For someone who thinks it's most racist you really are fighting the corner that it is hard.

The kid was white. How could he be saying that the kid would become black? I just don't understand. I think you are attempting to say that he is saying that rapping is for working class kids in hoodies and rooted in black culture therefore he is being racist but actually he's implying that he doesn't view rapping as a race thing.

Is an upper middle class hoodie an Oxbridge one?

@FenellaMaxwellsPony
In the TV programme 'Black-ish', the Dad is head of the 'Urban department' of an advertising agency. Making adverts that appeal to the black market. That episode was a piss take making a joke at the back of a American race issues. It was done on purpose. It not that he was meant to be in the urban department that deals with black people, But because those departments are created to meet quotas. Dead end departments with not much purpose. Where people are send to die because they can't be fired. Basically, he was saying am as good as any of them in the company but am not good enough to be in the department that targets everybody. Its the niche department created to meet quotas. Or the ones created to say we deal with black people too. If not, he would have never been hired or offered a promotion. That's what that episode was all about.

@LadyPW
It's a known word for black people who are sidelined in a predominantly white space. (You are put in the urban department or space where you get to compete with other black people. To prevent cases of racism flaring up when a black persons is under looked for promotions or awards). Out of sight, out of mind. That is why black singers, commentators on black issues say, you can only win most awards in the urban category. It doesn't matter whether you are seen as good or not. That's your consolation price.

If it wasn't an issue, the op's son would not have mentioned it. They would not have tried to dissect it. Most racist undertones are called that for a reason. If it was plain racist, we would not be having a discussion. would we? Try to agree to disagree.

Unless 'mc' meant 'master of ceremonies that's where the word emcee originates and that's how rapping started for anyone interested.
(I know what the op meant).

One of my family has produced a track on a grime album. He is white.

@quencher- thanks for the explanation on urban places- I only realised "urban", in some contexts- is associated with black people since the Grammy controversy re Beyonce and Adele- which I read about in mainstream newspapers.

Who says teenagers don't speak about people in terms of class? Mine do. They were actually taught about class and Social-Economic Status at school. Subsequently they asked me what "class" we were. Very recently my daughter texted me in a panic asking our annual income- she needed it for an assignment. This is all good. In this particular case, however- she didn't say upper middle-class- I did, I know the boy and his family, and they would be considered such.

To all the people going on about their white cousins who rap: google image rap music. Literally all the images will be black faces, with the exception of a couple of M&M pictures. It doesn't matter if you personally know a hundred white rappers, as a cultural phenomenon, rap is very much black.

.. how??

Some white rappers:
Goldie Lookin' Chain
Mr B
Professor Elemental

I Google imaged "Rap Music".

Picture 4 and 6 are both white...

Why not try it yourself?

Person 4 and Person 6 are both white.

M&Ms are chocolates. Did you mean Eminem?

Plan B is white
Maverick Sabre is white

Why do posters keep referring to M&Ms??? what has a chocolaty nutty snack got to do with huddies/racism/rappers
[boggles]

*hoodies

Op, when your DCs were learning about social economic status did they miss the the lesson on the 'class system' being constructed by an enequal, unjust & corrupt political system?

Yeah.. no. Rap is not very much black. At all.

And the greatest rapper in history was Vanilla Ice.

"Op, when your DCs were learning about social economic status did they miss the the lesson on the 'class system' being constructed by an enequal, unjust & corrupt political system?"...
... which perpetuated and flourished on a long history of institutional, systematic racism? Which we are now taking (some, small) steps to rectify? yes indeed they did, Why do you ask?

"Yeah.. no. Rap is not very much black. At all."

here are the top images of my google image search for "top rappers" (when I googled rap music, it gave images of logos saying "RAP MUSIC")

This is not a sensible hill you have chosen to stake your point on.

The reason why I ask is because you are identifying people by class.