To ask you to help save the Lollipop Ladies/Men.

[WorraLiberty]

I know I'm being unreasonable because this petition should be hidden away in the depths of the petition topic, where no fucker can see it

But before HQ moves it and gives me a swift kick up the arse, please can I ask you to sign This petition to halt the cutbacks?

Not everyone will agree of course, what with all the other awful cutbacks going on and that's fine.

But an area near me got rid of all their Lollipop patrollers last week and exactly 6 days later a child got hit on the school crossing

Anyway I'll stop waffling now. MNHQ I do apologise for blatantly putting this here for traffic, but when you move it, can you all sign it first?

Thanks.

Thanks Rachel

Signed. I'm not convinced it isn't already too late, though; ours went two years ago (West London).

Worra Apologies I did not explain the question well. I know the history, but when you put something on a statutory footing, you have to detail the requirement. So is it: all road crossings within 200 yrds of school? all of the above with a least 1 child fatality in the last 3 years?
I find it difficult to sign something when it is very unclear what I am asking for.

Ahh I see carol. It would work the way it always has, in that dangerous hotspots are studied/monitored by the Highways department, who then make the decision as to whether a Lollipop person is needed in that particular location.

but for a statutory obligation, you have to define a hotspot. The point about a law is it has to be clear you are breaking it. The recent descision on taking children out of school was the nebulous definition of a 'reasonable amount of time', so they concluded it must mean the school rules.
Therefore you must define how often the highways agency decide what a hotspot is, how often they monitor and what incidents (accidents, number of cars etc) they decide are important before they insist on a Lollipop person. This will be open to challenge by both parents who want a Lollipop and councils which do not want to provide one.

True carol but that's the way it's always been.

Parents often have to campaign hard to get the council to listen.

But at the moment with the removal of the service in so many areas, no-one is listening at all, because they don't have to.

Worra that's my point. It it is a legal requirement, we have court cases. How do you propose we decide where they have Lollipops and where not? In sufficient detail so a judge can decide.