To think that vitamin D Deficiency and narcissism fears are actually just fashions in medicine at the moment like flares or bootcut

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I am just being astounded how many people seem to have their doctor thinking they are vitamin D deficient, and i"m sure everyone used to worry about this in the 70s.

I"be been saying i feel tired and minor depressed for ages but now the flap is all 'vitamin d', and similarly with narcissism...Someone disagrees..Narcissist, someone knows a subject better than you? Narc. Someone has nicer car...Narc... AIBU???

You don't get the extra strength Vit D over the counter. My boys had to have it ordered in and it took a week to come. Vit D deficiency is not a fad - low Vit D in babies can cause seizures. DS2 was at that level, we had to go into hospital immediately after his test results came back.

Come on.

Scandinavians are the most Vit D deficient in Europe. Short days, long nights and so on.

Anyway, they are so cool when abroad, and take a tan like nobody's biz. I just don't get it!

So what is the real deal here. I am sure some know all will know!

@WannaBe. Know what you mean about the autism thing. If I had a £ for everytime some suggested I have autism because I like to do things a bit differently I would probably have about £10er 😀
Same with dd too. Every time I mention she doesn't like loud music or she's not very socialible everyone's a dr all of a sudden

Because Ivor, sunlight is not the only source of vit D and too much can be harmful.

Was diagnosed with vitamin D deficiency on Friday after a blood test. Results are pretty clear - definitely not a fad, neither are the really shitty symptoms I'm trying to deal with whilst working and looking after my 5yo.

Didn't realise I was trendy - first time for everything!

Not antagonistic at all, are you OP?

You are wrong. Lots of dose-finding trials into potential benefits of vitamin D going on. It may be linked to everything from depression, to osteoporosis, to multiple sclerosis, fertility... The point is, more research is needed, but it's extremely likely that vitamin D is far more important than previously thought.

Vitamin D deficiency was quite trendy pre-war too.

Trendy?

I felt like shit. Begged for my vit d level. Was turned down. Begged again. Finally got them tested and they were super low.

Vit D has also been linked to behavior in children - I think you need to read up in it a bit

Ivor are you really advocating that people should self diagnose and self medicate? That's very, very dangerous.

Not a clue what you're on about. But my body is unable to absorb vitamin d. And osteomalacia is no joke. Imagine having tiny fractures in your feet and shins that make every step feel like your bones are being stabbed by icy needles...or that every step is causing your hips to crack. That's what it's like when my vitamin d levels drop. And I was so anaemic before the birth of my second baby, that I was almost admitted to hospital as if I stood up, I fainted. And struggled to breathe. Luckily, I managed to get them up in time to give birth.

It's very rare that people actually want to be ill. People dont go to the doctors and come away with an illness and think 'brilliant. I've always wanted rickets.'

Or maybe they do and they are just narcissists.

Havanaclub - When my dp worked in Norway, the hotel breakfast buffets often included a bottle of Vitamin D supplement that people added to their juice each morning.

30% less sunlight is reaching the Earths surface due to global dimming compared to 30 years ago which also adds to the rise of bit D deficiency.

It's funny how words meant to demonstrate some kind of intellectual superiority can convey such silliness.

So many fads and fashions around. Like onesies and unicorns and selfie sticks...

However medical advances aren't actually in the same league are they? When you think about it. Really.

Funny that, I'm having my levels tested (and other things) when I go for my blood test tomorrow, perhaps I should tell my endocrinologist not to bother

Hello. Well I'm better than everyone on here, and my joint pain, fatigue and mild depression is more catastrophic than you'd imagine

Ok i take the point.. !

I have been "accused' of both of these recently..As have about 5 people i know which is 100% of the people who would share healthcare information so it just seems V 'of the now'

It is scary that but d deficiency used to be a poverty disease, and now poverty is getting frighteningly common (though hidden by legacy phone/clothes ownership etc) and i confess to having been foodbanking and effectively starving some weeks through winter because of lack of money..Despite working 30hours a week at a Walmart (ASDA) . I feel like i"m not because I'm educated intelligent and usually positive, but in reality I'm a month from homelessness without a significant change..

.. i think the ,'narc' accusation is quite often used by thicker people about clever people though, which would also fit. it's like the 'who does she fucking think she isn't and 'swot' behaviour but given a new "sciency' name sometimes. I do also find that quite narcissistic, not NPD people use it endlessly about their 'competition' eg a neighbour who has a nicer garden is 'a narc' .But i still think of the most 'normally' narcissistic people i know are still just competitively image based, not NPD as such.

do actually hope i am vit Do deficient as i get terrible.SAD and hip/back pain and would quite like my life back a bit. Some of that is stress though, i fucking hate poverty.

Thanks for all the discussion i think heathcare awarenesses do act a bit like fashions with certain ones rising to consciousness at certain times.becsuse i do vaguely remember pink vitamin d drinks in the last period of conservative government and grinding poverty

As they say on you tube 'thumbs up if you took a vitamin tablet when you read this'

I think a Thick Person might have called Clever You a narc somewhere along the line, perhaps because you clearly think you know a lot about certain matters when you know practically nothing. If you've never experienced a true NPD person in your life then count yourself lucky, and don't dismiss those people who have had their lives blown apart repeatedly by it as mere fashion.

I'm NOT dismissing that kind of narc'. I think overuse of the term to end arguments, avoid understanding or just to point fingers is dangerous.

Your update screams 'look at me! I'm so clever!'

Yet it it is just ignorant observations. I actually think you are very insulting. You couldn't possibly be in poverty because you are intelligent and educated.

I'm yet to see all these wild, 'thick' accusations of narcissism being thrown around.

The only time I've seen it used is usually on relationship threads where someone is clearly emotionally abusive and showing narcissistic behaviour.

And medical trends...it's because the environment changes, research advances. I don't understand how you see it as trendy to be unwell.

Ivor

Yes, you can buy vitamin D supplements cheaply over the counter, and I've read that it's a good idea for people to take them in the winter months to maintain their general health.

But my GP told me to that the over the counter supplements wouldn't make much difference to my severe deficiency and the capsules I take are prescribed.

This idea of vit d deficiency being somehow trendy is bullshit. I didn't go to the doctor asking for my vit d levels to be checked, I went because I'd had months of pain in my right arm and hand, which was initially thought to be arthritis, but the blood tests the doctor requested revealed the true cause. My GP actually described the number of people with some level of vit d deficiency in the U.K. as 'an epidemic'.

I don't think being deficient in an essential vitamin is in any way fashionable, but certainly on MN having a toxic or narc relative seems to be par for the course.

As PP have said it isn't a 'fashion', it is official NHS guidance for everyone to take vitamin D supplements due to the horrendous climate in the UK, even those who don't have a severe deficiency:

"During the autumn and winter, you need to get vitamin D from your diet because the sun isn't strong enough for the body to make vitamin D.
But since it's difficult for people to get enough vitamin D from food alone, everyone (including pregnant and breastfeeding women) should consider taking a daily supplement containing 10mcg of vitamin D during the autumn and winter."

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vitamins-minerals/Pages/Vitamin-D.aspx

Thanks for posting that.