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Are social services really stealing children?

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user1491583343 · 09/04/2017 09:53

Hi all,

I just seen a terrible documentary in Portugal where some parents living in the UK where asking the government to help them with their children, which were taken away by social services unfairly.

I know some of this documentaries can be only one sided but really made me wonder as they seem pretty terrified and genuine... I am also pregnant so this was really distressing to see. Some of the cases there in my opinion shouldn't lead to the kids been taken into fostering or adoption - they were too extreme and cruel.

To give one example a mum there, had her 2nd baby and noticed something wasn't okay as the new born baby seemed to shake every now and than... She took the baby to Hospital a few times (she showed all the letters and videos of the baby "shaking"). Apparently different doctors told her that was "hiccups" she was always sent home. 5 days latter her baby dies and social services take away her 3 year old as doctors believe she had "shaken the baby until he passed away" - even though the case was still under investigation the 3 year was given for adoption (not fostering), even though she had her grandparents living also in the UK with all the conditions to get custody of the child.

It's super scary but basically more medical exames have showed latter that the baby could have died due to epilepsy as their was no signs of agression, abuse etc... but as the child was placed into adoption this was already too late.

I am sure some details are missing but seemed so cruel that I decided to ask for opinions and see if anyone here has had any experiences.

The documentary also showed the pressure SS get to meet their targets and how it's not the first time that they are accused of lying etc...

Some parents in the documentary have showed concerns on seeking help from professionals due to this extreme procedures - for example another case their was a woman who got post-natal depression. She got her baby taken away after going to GP to discuss this matter, because the GP reported her to SS who have assumed she wouldn't have the ability to look after a child. We all know that woman can get depression but what is creating the problem is the fact that close family don't even get offered to foster. Children are given away and in most cases ends in adoption.

Would love to hear experiences and your thoughts on this.

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user1497863568 · 22/03/2019 04:14

Look at the issue of stolen children in Spain and Ireland. There was a black market for these kids - many of the adopters linked to international pedophile rings.

darkriver19886 · 22/03/2019 05:29

As a birth parent...No they are not.

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misspiggy19 · 03/11/2019 18:22

@benny888

Where’s your evidence for all this??????

hidinginthenightgarden · 03/11/2019 18:25

We adopted and it is a bloody long process and birth parents are given so so many chances to turn things around before the child is offically adopted. I can 100% guarentee that it doesn't happen like that in the UK.

hidinginthenightgarden · 03/11/2019 18:26

Misspiggy19 I think benny is being sarcastic!

LionelRitchieStoleMyNotebook · 03/11/2019 18:30

I work with children's services daily, if anything their threshold is too high.

Ferretyone · 03/11/2019 18:47

Thank you @Gallavich for the sensible post

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Gallavich · 03/11/2019 19:37

Thanks
I found out recently that when the local authority needs to look for adopters outside their area (for child safety reasons) they have to pay the local authority whose adopters they use over £25k. It's a very expensive operation.

Robz30 · 25/12/2019 12:07

Sorry to activate a old post 🤦🏻‍♂️. But I’d like to say you have 1 year to appeal the adoption now the social services Doesn't like to tell people this information, I had the same problem I didn’t get told this until it was to late so infact social services could be commuting a offence withholding information a parent should be entitled to. But morale of the story don’t trust a word social services says talk to a solicitor. Just a reminder IT TAKES YEAR FOR A ADOPTION APPEAL TO BE COMPLETED SO YOU CAN APPEAL AGENTS IT

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