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Look! I just dropped $1million of bombs on your thread, so stop going on about #Russiagate (Trump cont.)

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 07/04/2017 22:01

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2893017-Dont-look-at-that-old-thread-its-FAKE-Look-at-this-one-Trump-cont

Sorry about the rubble and orphans Confused

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GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 00:56

Keith Olbermann‏Verified account @KeithOlbermann 4h4 hours ago
Russians warned. Syrians tipped. State Dept not notified. Congress not consulted. Base operational again. THIS WAS JUST A P-R STUNT. twitter.com/andrewbeatty/status/850417125038673921

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 00:58

Vera Institute‏Verified account @verainstitute 9h9 hours ago
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BREAKING: NY Becomes First State in US To Provide Lawyers for Every Immigrant Detained, Facing Deportation: bit.ly/2p9Q9IK

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 00:59

ITV News‏Verified account @itvnews 1m1 minute ago
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Second man arrested in relation to suspected lorry terror attack in Stockholm, Swedish media reports www.itv.com/news/update/2017-04-08/second-man-arrested-in-relation-to-lorry-terror-attack/

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 01:01

Michael Wilner‏Verified account @mawilner 1m1 minute ago
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"There's mounting evidence that they were complicit," @SenBlumenthal says of #Russia on #SyriaGasAttack. "They should be held accountable."

cozietoesie · 08/04/2017 01:18

Some (further) background reporting.

Bannon Kushner

HelsinkiLights · 08/04/2017 01:21

This is what it looks like to me. Russia meddled in the US election to get a President who could be manipulated to be on side with Russians.
Russia on Assad's side in Syria.
Although US bombed the chemical weapons factory it was done with the covert agreement & understanding of Russia & Syria.
This takes the heat off Trump & "Russiagatesky" as it looks like Trump isn't 'in cahoots" with Putin.
Putin knows he has a puppet (Trump) he can pull the strings on.
Russia without the interference of the US can wipe out every group against Assad.
By keeping Assad in power, Russia has another 'puppet'.
Russia's aim is to have the biggest influence in the Middle East by using Syria to further this aim.
Russia then feels that they're back up there as a Superpower.
Russia wants to be the No 1 superpower in the world or at least Europe & Asia.
As Russia cannot bear the idea or shame of China being No 1 or even No 2 superpower whilst Russia ends up in 3rd place.
There a few points I feel are missing but I'm sure someone else will spot them.

Or I could be totally wrong.

TheClaws · 08/04/2017 01:50

Checking in ... thank you for the new thread Illegitimate. Love the title - just sorry it came from such an inspiration!

AcrossthePond55 · 08/04/2017 03:10

Helsinki I don't think you're far off in your estimation.

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:19

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 39s39 seconds ago
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Trump considers firing both Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon: report hill.cm/1YTg47Q

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:28

Rogue WH Snr Advisor‏ @RogueSNRadvisor 2m2 minutes ago
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Rogue WH Snr Advisor Retweeted Roger Stone
Sending Stevie the Meatball packing & selling out the Alt-Right in the process. #youdownwithGOP

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:29

Jeremy W. Peters‏Verified account @jwpetersNYT 3m3 minutes ago
"Work this out." Trump admonishes Kushner and Bannon. @maggieNYT & I on the possible shakeup www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/white-house-kushner-bannon-military-strike.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

TheClaws · 08/04/2017 03:33

Trump has today retweeted a video grab of Ivanka and Kushner pushing their kids in front of the Chinese president and his wife and having them recite a song in the language while everyone beams. I found this purposeful 'using' of children to be quite distasteful, actually. Keep the kids away from it and out of the media spotlight.

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:38

Kawsar Ali‏ @iamkawsar 8h8 hours ago
The real reason for the bombing: US removing sanctions on Russia. If this reddit comment is right and media is just gobbling this up pic.twitter.com/5l8ceP8D5k

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:40

Ivanka has been using their children as "Kennedy Camelot" props since the election. Every time the shit hits the fan, she's popping "cute" pictures of the kids on her Twitter. Like clockwork.

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:44

The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 1m1 minute ago
L.G.B.T. Advocates Criticize Nominee for Army Secretary nyti.ms/2no4FAl

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 03:46

Newsweek‏Verified account @Newsweek 48s48 seconds ago
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A brief history of why Syria's at war and who's fighting bit.ly/2nU2gtf

PlectrumElectrum · 08/04/2017 03:56

I cannot be impeached no matter how many bombs you drop in this thread. Unless they're bigly.

GingerIvy · 08/04/2017 04:10

Mike Giglio‏Verified account @mike_giglio 5h5 hours ago
big from @nancyayoussef on US suspicions that a Russian jet hit the hospital treating victims of the chemical attack www.buzzfeed.com/nancyyoussef/a-russian-drone-may-have-turned-off-its-camera-right-before?utm_term=.vxEJr72kJ#.nvJdk698d

AcrossthePond55 · 08/04/2017 04:35

The idea that Ivanka thinks she could in any way measure up to the elegant, well spoken Jacqueline Kennedy is just laughable.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 08/04/2017 06:24

Interesting.On Twitter, apparently #firekushner is trending at number 3, while #firebannon is trending at number 5.

What position was #fireTrump occupying?

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/04/2017 06:34

The Trump-Putin theory on Syria that can't be ruled out www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/the-trump-putin-theory-on-syria-that-can-t-be-ruled-out-916753987666

Worth watching

TheClaws · 08/04/2017 06:49

Ginger, yes - I feel sorry for the kids. Wealth and privilege can never make up for a momentous loss of privacy, lack of identity past the 'Trump' label, and your parents forcing you to put on a circus act. They can't consent to their images being put up online like this and seen by billions around the world (some the wrong kind of people).

TheClaws · 08/04/2017 07:06

Fox News @FoxNews 1hr

#Hannity on Trump's #Syria Strike: 'Instead of Weakness, We Now Have Strength'

Hannity is all gushy about it but the commenters, in a signal change for Fox, are not. Sorry Hannity! You could be on the side of a sinking team.

Gumpendorf · 08/04/2017 07:52

Have the Chinese commented on the attack? It's eclipsed the China talks, and I imagine the Chinese are thrilled about that.

Pretty unusual to launch an attack on a 3rd country at the start of a state visit, too.

MrsT2007 · 08/04/2017 07:54

Catch up on Louise Mensch and her #funwithfisa as she's making more links back to Betsy Devos and Erik Prince there. Whole lot of them are in this data (& money?) laundering stuff that was part of the original FISA warrant.

Jester is following unmarked planes too. Who and where.....