To think parents with noisy children should take them out

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Just been to my sons Easter service in church. The children were trying their best to put on a beautiful performance. A sibling in the middle of the church was screaming and driving the noisiest, most clattery truck up and down the stone floor. So noisy that no one could hear the children's play and special Easter prayers that they'd written. When my two were toddlers I would have either stood as far back as possible or stepped outside until they calmed down.

TBH I don't remember having to do either of these things as they both knew how to behave in church. I always took a large bag of snacks and quiet toys. The refusal of other parents to show some respect to the other children is one thing I won't miss about primary school when mine go to secondary.

Very selfish, feckless parenting.

And if you're 6'7, don't sit in the front row.

I have a rowdy 1yr old . YANBU. I will and do remove DD if its becoming too much.

YANBU I would and have always removed my child from events if they are disruptive. Ds1 has always been great at behaving at things, ds2 however is easily bored and wants to be moving around.

YANBU OP
Doesn't matter why your DC is making noise, if he is disturbing the audience, you leave. Some people are just selfish.

Hellopeoplehowareyou.

Not every condition, just this one. Not ignorant, I've spent many years with over 16s with various problems which have affected their ability to learn. How much do you know?

The question, surely, is what would Jesus do? Jesus would suffer the little children, so from an eschatological viewpoint, you probably don't have a leg to stand on
Errrmmmmm .... how many children were exactly present at the Last Supper?

My personal take: if a child prevents the people in church hearing the service, especially the readings and the homily, then the parent who did not take the child out has the obligation to tell everyone who asks what the readings and the homily were about. Given that they, presumably, were able to pay attention, which is why they never thought to take the child out.

*Busybustbust
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I have a 4 year old daughter with special needs, Iv child minded a lot of autistic children and worked in mental health.
You say you've worked with similar, but you have no idea about the ins and outs of diagnoses and the actual neurological causes.

I'm not religious but when I've been to friends/families services I've always been surprised at how welcoming they are to children & how congregation members have said not to take my child out & they'd make efforts to entertain them. I've always made massive efforts to keep them quiet tho & it's just the odd baby/toddler ramblings that have come out. Full on crying or rumbunctiousness & id take them outside for their benefit as much as anyone else's!

Oh dear. I don't think I'm being ignorant or intolerant for wanting to hear my child's play. Because your child has special needs does this take precedence over my child's performance. Your child has as much right to be in church as mine but isn't my child allowed to carry out the performance that they've worked on. You tell me??

Yanbu or intolerant to want to hear your child!
Like others i too missed the vows due to pAarents not taking out a screaming child
I say good on that school!

Piffpaffpoff well done that theatre!

YANBU if you were at the theatre or even at school but given it's a Church service I think it's a little different. Churches are inclusive, no matter how annoying someone is. My DD has always behaved beautifully in Church. My DS is a little devil. I would spend most of mass most weeks sweating trying to keep him quiet or taking him out until our priest told me not to. He'll only learn by staying put and others in the congregation are compassionate and tolerant and if they're not then it's their opportunity to learn not to be judgemental, a more important lesson than listening to a homily. Priest has a very good point.

So basically you are saying kids with SN should be banned from performances? How tolerant.

To OP

NT kids who can learn eventually to be quiet.

Kids with SN might never learn....not all can...so a wee bit of compassion and flexibility needs to be applied sometimes.

Noise during your child's performance or a life of being forbidden to go to performances,,which would you choose,

*It is fine to want NT kids to be taken out

To lou I didn't take it that OP is saying ban those with SN?

I was referring to the OP'S last post :)

Which was to a parent of a child with SN

There is a bit of a difference between a child making a little bit of noise, often because they're excited, and full on screaming and clattering toys up and down the aisle.

I like to think parents are embarrassed about getting up and dragging the child out (even if they appear blithely unconcerned).

When DD1 was a tiny baby I was trying to be very organised and timed feeds and so on so that DD1 would most likely be asleep when the bride arrived for the ceremony at 3pm. Success! She was napping peacefully at 3pm. Unfortunately by 3.45pm when the bride finally arrived she had started to stir and reached a full on howl by the time the bride walked down the aisle. So I took her out and missed the entire service.

Elkegel. Yes but by you missing the service the happy couple were able to hear their wedding vows and enjoy their wedding

YANBU, we only go to church for Christenings and if my Haribo bribe doesn't quiet DD (3.5) down then I take her out.

People lose their minds a little when it comes to their children's noise. DD goes to pre-school ballet class, its mainly pointing toes and skipping at her age but she loves it and they put on a little performance for parents today (usually we all have to sit in a different room while they're in class). It wasn't exactly Swan Lake but every little girl was beaming that their mum and dad were there and they all tried really hard to impress us! Cue the family who are always late coming in, their DD runs to the already performing group while her dad and older sister (about 10 or 11) watch. The older sister was doing her homework, and her dad was helping her, they were talking very loudly. I, and the other parents, were I mean FFS couldn't they do it at home?! Luckily the teacher doesn't take any prisoners and told them to be quiet and watch the performance. They were behind us on leaving and were moaning their heads off about being told off 🙄

CherryChasingDotMuncher what a good teacher

The schools that ban preschoolers and toddlers, as I have no alternative childcare, I would have missed the first 3 years of DD's performances. Not to mention some very important meetings about the school's academisation.