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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

OP posts:
MuseumOfCurry · 01/04/2017 03:39

I don't agree with these I'm-so-clever names, but it's fascist for the state to dictate what a parent can call their child.

AndKnowItsSeven · 01/04/2017 03:52

Yes dh said Aubrey was a boys name because of an old comic series.

mathanxiety · 01/04/2017 04:00

I think it would be a better idea to get serious about bullying in school and the culture of conformity that helps it thrive.

When it comes to sorting people according to the names they choose for their children, I have found you really can't judge books by their covers. I think the class system in Britain has a lot to answer for.

SuperBeagle · 01/04/2017 04:07

Aubrey was originally a masculine name. It's a form of the Germanic name Alberich. It was common for men in the Middle Ages, and then again in the 1800s.

But it's been more popular for girls since the 70s and I think it's quite popular as a girl's name in the US. I'd probably associate it with a girl if I heard it and didn't know the child.

NightWanderer · 01/04/2017 05:29

I remember an Ex worked with a woman called Joy, he said she was anything but.

DD's best friend's name means smile. Luckily she does have a cute smile. Can you imagine if she was a miserable, sullen child?

I often think that I should have called DS1 and 2 Chaos and Thunder. I'd have called DD Diva.

Perhaps kids should remain nameless until they are 5. Much easier to come up with a name that suits them.

Biscusting · 01/04/2017 06:00

Our first DC has an incredibly boring 'normal' name, thanks to DH. I wanted to give them a practical, yet strong name like 'Spoon Hammer' but it was vetoed.

xStefx · 01/04/2017 06:31

Brasty, I also know a L'Oreal ( my cousins child) and had to stop myself saying " was she worth it" when she was born.

ForalltheSaints · 01/04/2017 06:36

I agree with the OPs sentiments entirely. Unusual names open a child to teasing or worse. How you would do it without ruling out traditional names from other countries is probably the most difficult bit. The ones I would love to stop are mis-spellings of names.

McHammersTrousers · 01/04/2017 06:42

I have an uncle called Lafayette. It's an uncommon name, undoubtedly, but not ridiculous. I bet there's lots of Lafayettes

NoArmaniNoPunani · 01/04/2017 06:43

surely not in the case of Zowie Bowie. It's reassuring that he's now better-known as Duncan Jones.

He was always Duncan Jones. That's on his birth certificate

iloveeverykindofcat · 01/04/2017 06:49

Puritan communities have used some great ones over the years:

www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/09/13/puritan_names_lists_of_bizarre_religious_nomenclature_used_by_puritans.html

I don't really buy the 'it's your child, you can call it what you like' argument. Children aren't property.

Mooey89 · 01/04/2017 06:52

I knew a Pompey (boy) and Princess (siblings) a couple of years ago guess where I'm from

I have a really unusual name in the Uk - I've only ever met one other before, and it used to drive me crazy when I was younger. I like it now though!

Iris65 · 01/04/2017 06:52

I have known a Pretty Baby (Baby was her surname) and a Tuppence (can't remember her surname). I also worked with a Searlait (which I was told is the Irish spelling of Charlotte), a Demi Moore and my mother worked with someone called Warren Offer.

ImsorryTommy · 01/04/2017 06:58

I don't care what people name their children. I am annoyed by made-up 'unique' spellings though. I met a Philicitee the other day. Spell it Felicity you twats!

PossumInAPearTree · 01/04/2017 06:58

Nothing wrong with Harper and I quite like Gandalf!

I know a KT.

As a midwife I've seen some odd names. Can't remember what the name was but one couple wanted to call their baby a name with a number in, the actual numeric symbol. I told them I was fairly sure the registrar wouldn't allow it, names have to be made up of letters only.

welovepancakes · 01/04/2017 06:59

Anyone heard of a child called Pocahontas McCafferty? Popular urban myth in Glasgow primary schools

mathanxiety · 01/04/2017 07:17

Searlait is pronounced Charlotte. It is indeed the Irish spelling (actually a transliteration).

jennielou75 · 01/04/2017 07:20

Some names don't travel well either. They can mean something beautiful in a home language but in English..... I have known a child called Maiyoorin pronounced my urine, Ayeshat.... you can work that out, Jennithal with a hard t and Princess Regina. All the parents probably had best intentions when naming their children but I bet all those names were changed when they went to secondary school.

Stickerrocks · 01/04/2017 07:25

In response to the Puritan names, the 1871 census shows we had a Coffin in our family. He was the 11th child, so it sounds as though he was doomed from the start.

Fruu · 01/04/2017 07:41

I have a very unusual name but have never, ever been bullied for it. Not for lack of bullying; I got bullied for my weight, having a "posh" accent, being good at schoolwork etc. The only trouble it's ever given me is that people are usually incapable of spelling it correctly because it's from a German word - I must waste hours a year spelling it out repeatedly and correcting forms! It does have advantages, though; most people remember my name, and it gives me a conversation starter with strangers.

My brother, on the other hand, has a normal, pleasant name but was bullied for it ruthlessly.

I think if bullies want to bully a child they'll find something or other to pick on, and what the child is named won't make any difference to them being a victim (with the exception possibly of kids who are called something clearly ridiculous and mockable like the aforementioned Anus).

Andrewofgg · 01/04/2017 07:46

Jennielou75 There is a woman whose litigation has figured in the Law reports whose first name is Anal. Pronounced an-AHL but I don't suppose that's how the children in her primary school class pronounced it!

CaoNiMartacus · 01/04/2017 07:53

Yeah, my best friend's cleaner's uncle's daughter shouldn't have been allowed to call her kids La-a and Chlamydia.

Hmm
neonrainbow · 01/04/2017 07:56

I think the sort of comments on here from grown adults bitching about childrens names just goes to show which kids are being brought up to think its acceptable to bully other children about their names.

The replies on the tyga lilli thread were disgusting and sadly not unusual on here for any name suggestion that deviates from the bog standard, tedious sophies, Emilys and Williams.

LilyTheSavage · 01/04/2017 07:58

I know of a baby called Barry Geronimo Smith. And another called Suzuki Kawasaki (Smith or Jones or similar).

SaucyJack · 01/04/2017 07:58

The founder of the Church of Scientology was called Lafayette trousers.