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We're not going to do anything about this failing thread. We're just going to watch it explode...Trump cont

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egosumquisum1 · 26/03/2017 21:06

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GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:28

Nada Bakos‏Verified account @nadabakos

Former CIA Analyst 2000-2010. Sr Fellow, NatSec, Foreign Policy Research Institute
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THREAD: Multiple reports say that POTUS wants to see raw intelligence, here’s why that’s a huge mistake pic.twitter.com/WtyY4A2Ok3

  1. Raw intelligence is info that’s newly collected & not vetted for truthiness or accuracy - its just data - there is no context provided
  1. Why does this matter? Because POTUS doesn’t know what he is looking at, he doesn’t spend 14 hours a day analyzing/synthesizing 1 topic

4.Can POTUS request intel products on certain topics? Absolutely, intel community has to provide objective products with complete analysis pic.twitter.com/dw9JGmCObI

5.There are 2 BIG problems at stake: if POTUS were to receive a raw intel product that said the sky is not blue, what is he to make of that?

  1. POTUS might tweet – the sky is not blue, therefore the climate change scientists are only providing FAKE NEWS
  1. In context, the report about the sky not being blue is actually a puzzle piece, other intel reports explain its because the air is blue pic.twitter.com/miVSG99K13

8.problem 2: Politicization-distorting, intel, analysis or judgments to favor preferred line of thinking irrespective of evidence

  1. Example: Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans at the Pentagon ‘analyzed’ (not) information about WMD and al Qaida connections to Saddam pic.twitter.com/GkRFvqFN1x
  1. Feith/OSP didn’t analyze, they cherry picked intel to support already baked conclusion-Iraq had WMD and must be tied to al Qaida – WRONG

11.See here, cherry picking intelligence is extremely dangerous and is a threat to the US public let alone the world www.wired.com/2013/03/iraq-intelligence/

  1. Intel analysts at the CIA are highly trained to sift out the truth from the rumors and garbage (there is so, so, so much boring stuff)

  2. So it is ridiculous to expect POTUS to have accurate judgment on what is and isn’t important raw intelligence let alone context - END

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:29

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 16s16 seconds ago
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NEW: The 7 most interesting finds from White House financial disclosures hill.cm/kj3WFuN

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 18:32

And that's just the start.

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 18:33

Some very high-powered forensic auditors will doubtless be lining up to offer their free tax advice. Smile

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:34

Frank Thorp V‏Verified account @frankthorp 52m52 minutes ago
So Pres Trump's social media director just goes ahead and calls for a primary challenge for Freedom Caucus Rep @justinamash --> pic.twitter.com/uhzK1oEV5s

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:36

Interestingly, the news media joined forces and made sure all the financial reports were available, then did a call out for everyone to view them and point out any issues. Grin

Lweji · 01/04/2017 18:36

NYT Opinion‏Verified account @nytopinion 16h16 hours ago

These days, the last thing you want is to be known as a Friend of Trump, writes @GailCollins nyti.ms/2nFKPgY

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 18:38

Oh Dear. Suggesting Primary challenges is rather a novice mistake.

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:38

Grin See? Some political leaders can have Twitter and be sort of normal. Shame Trump can't.

Justin Trudeau‏Verified account @JustinTrudeau 5h5 hours ago
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I've been giving it some thought, and you know what, who hasn't wanted to punch Chandler? How about a rematch @MatthewPerry?

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:41

ITV News‏Verified account @itvnews 46s47 seconds ago
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May urged to protect Gibraltar citizens amid suggestions Spain could veto Brexit trade deal. @PaulBrandITV reports:
www.itv.com/news/2017-03-31/theresa-may-urged-to-protect-citizens-of-gibraltar-amid-suggestions-spain-could-veto-brexit-trade-deal/

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:41

cozie Yeah - media is already jumping on that comment. Not too clever.

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:41

Newsweek‏Verified account @Newsweek 26s27 seconds ago
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Iran rejects Defense Secretary Mattis' claim about sponsoring terror bit.ly/2omykJR

BiglyBadgers · 01/04/2017 18:50

China will eat Trump for breakfast. He will come out of this meeting with them having sold the whole of America for a bunch of magic beans. Hmm

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:51

Huffington Post‏Verified account @HuffingtonPost 3m3 minutes ago
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The first week of early voting bodes well for Democrat Jon Ossoff huff.to/2nLEdPP

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 18:52

Well, I didn't want to put it quite like that but as you've said it.......... Wink

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 18:56

They'll likely let him have a couple of pretty gewgaws to walk away with, Bigly.

GingerIvy · 01/04/2017 18:59

Tommy Campbell‏Verified account @MrTommyCampbell 2m2 minutes ago
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Mike Pence "Donald Trump will NOT REST until ISIS is hunted down."

Ah, we get it!

Trump is hunting ISIS on the back nine of Mar-a-Lago. 🏌

Grin
illegitimateMortificadospawn · 01/04/2017 18:59

New thread needed....

HelsinkiLights · 01/04/2017 19:18

Don't the American public see that Trump has made a laughing stock of the USA? The country is just a joke.
And yes the Chinese will eat Trump for breakfast or walk out after the first meeting.
I can see them walking as Trump will bulldoze in straightaway talking money & what he wants. He won't do the social chit chat that the Chinese expect. I think they'll consider Trump very vulgar.......as he is.

cozietoesie · 01/04/2017 19:21

I don't think that the USA is a laughing stock, Helsinki. 45 and his Inner Circle are.

He represents a minority of Americans as well.

HelsinkiLights · 01/04/2017 19:30

Ginger you've put it in better words than me!
Previous US Presidents made me feel that I could sleep soundly at night (even Dubya) where as Trump makes me feel uneasy & cross.

Deejoda · 01/04/2017 19:34

Any new thread starters in the house?Smile

originalbiglymavis · 01/04/2017 19:36

I've just seen one. Over there 👉

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