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There is no evidence that this so called thread was "tapped". Trump continued

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egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 19:33

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cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 19:55

The FBI would seem like a (marginally) safer bet, wouldn't it? Smile

BiglyBadgers · 25/03/2017 19:59

Oh ffs. Sometimes i just dispair i really do Hmm

The Government Told A Ugandan Politician He's Too Poor To Visit Britain For A Conference
www.buzzfeed.com/marieleconte/the-government-told-a-ugandan-politician-hes-too-poor-to?utm_term=.hb2Z81M43R#.ntyxOG8V5w

BiglyBadgers · 25/03/2017 20:01

The FBI would seem like a (marginally) safer bet, wouldn't it?

I guess with all this defenestration going around at the moment a nice cosy room with a locked door and bars on the windows might not seem such a bad option after all Grin

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:04

WhoKnew/his unelected advisors might not be the only people that Flynn could 'discuss' either. Wink

GingerIvy · 25/03/2017 20:04

Gideon Resnick‏Verified account @GideonResnick

Reporter @thedailybeast.
19h19 hours ago
The night before Nunes made his surveillance claims about Trump, he got a message on his phone and vanished. www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/24/devin-nunes-vanished-the-night-before-he-made-trump-surveillance-claims.html … pic.twitter.com/NK3TYXrdrJ

GingerIvy · 25/03/2017 20:06

Brandon Friedman‏Verified account @BFriedmanDC 7m7 minutes ago
This is a huge story. If true, it's likely the largest massacre of civilians by the U.S. military since Vietnam. And Iraq is blaming Trump. twitter.com/DavidKenner/status/845568960493998080

MrsT2007 · 25/03/2017 20:21

The Jester 'confirming' Flynnhas flipped.

He did say last week to buckle up.....

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:23

Flynn has certainly been very quiet of late. Smile

MrsT2007 · 25/03/2017 20:27

Is this the start of the house of cards collapsing?
Will Manafort try and do the same to try and get a deal if this is true?

Is it time to crack open the popcorn?

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:28

It would be big, Ginger. I'd like some more on it though.

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:30

Goodness, MrsT. The FBI would run out of safe houses if so. Wink

lionheart · 25/03/2017 20:35

Are you watching the Seth Abramson/Juliette Kayyem twitteries?

saffronwblue · 25/03/2017 20:37

When you are a certain type of CEO you just bark orders and the people in your team make things happen. You are only judged by the market and shareholders. The idea of government, of being accountable to the people and having to continuously justify, persuade and influence everybody while keeping promises, is just incomprehensible to 45.

Lweji · 25/03/2017 20:37

Iraqi officer says rules of engagement relaxed under Trump

Certainly obvious with that first mission in Yemen. They are getting not much better than terrorists.

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:39

I'm watching them now, lion. Smile

Lweji · 25/03/2017 20:39

The idea of government, of being accountable to the people and having to continuously justify, persuade and influence everybody while keeping promises, is just incomprehensible to 45.

Taking Trump University as model, he was able and keen to recruit students, but when they started complaining, then they had to take him to court. And then some...

Lweji · 25/03/2017 20:42

Going back a bit:

ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

Why didn't you, then? Or will they push the same crap plan once they undermine Obamacare enough?

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2017 20:45

I'm not sure if Flynn cut a deal or if his doing so would be the beginning of the end, but I certainly hope so! Because if Flynn has the 'smoking gun' and is willing to deliver it with a shiny bow on it, you'll see Manafort et al lining up behind him to squeal to save their own skins. There is no honour among thieves and that's what they all are, after all. They'll be throwing others out of their way to exit Trump's burning building!!

I've said it before and I'm saying it again, Trump will never resign under pressure. They will have to have rock solid evidence of his direct collusion with Russia before he does. He loves power too much and his ego is too large to ever give up the presidency otherwise. It was the same with Nixon. Certainly his advisors were advising him to resign for the good of the country for quite some time before he actually did resign. It wasn't until it was crystal clear even to the village idiot that he would be impeached and most likely end up in prison that he resigned to save his own skin. Trump will be the same. He will have to be facing certain impeachment and a trial before he goes, and even then I'm not so sure. His ego is so large and he's so deluded that I can see him holding on to the door jambs of the WH as they drag him off kicking and screaming.

The only alternate scenario I see to the above is him getting a bug up his arse as he sees his doom on the horizon and him doing everything he can to sabotage the country in petty revenge and then resigning saying "Fuck you all! Get yourselves out of this mess on your own!".

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:47

There's a third scenario, Across.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/03/2017 20:49

What would that be cozie? Trump's spontaneous combustion? (She says hopefully)

MrsT2007 · 25/03/2017 20:52

I saw the Juliette Kayyem one retweeted and noted she's no slouch.

Then 'the Jester' confirmed it.

The chap is a spy/hecking legend it would seem (was him who hacked ISIS and put a cartoon of Mohammed on their pages after Charlie Hebdo....his laptop is in the spying museum, even the FBI rate him apparently).

not sure he'd stake his seemingly high reputation unless there was something in it.

Watching the space with interest....

cozietoesie · 25/03/2017 20:54

I've said enough.

saffronwblue · 25/03/2017 20:56

Flynn flipping could open the floodgates.

MrsT2007 · 25/03/2017 21:03

Couldn't it just.

Manafort et al may line up to squeal in turn

7Days · 25/03/2017 21:14

I still worry about civil unrest. He still has the support of the lunatic fringe. Unless they personally start feeling the pinch of his policies they WILL persist in believing he's been brought down by Deep State or probably Hilary herself, cackling as she goes