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I didn't write this thread title, I'm just quoting a really intelligent and talented poster on the last Trump thread

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BiglyBadgers · 19/03/2017 11:43

New thread!

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UnGoogleable · 19/03/2017 23:38

So do we think the shit is about to hit the fan, and the main players are just aligning themselves and getting all their ducks in a row before they drop the big one?

TheClaws · 19/03/2017 23:51

Ungoogleable, that would be a wonderful thing. But we've thought it before, and it hasn't happened. Shit doesn't seem to stick to him. Maybe he has a Teflon tan? But this coming week will be a big one with the intelligence briefings, Comey testifying etc. We can only hope that this week's manure will bury him, or at least stink so much it cannot be ignored any longer Grin

UnGoogleable · 19/03/2017 23:58

I think that only a coup from within the GOP will suffice. Anything less, and they'll just close ranks and ride the storm.

They need to get Paul Ryan on side, against Trump. Which perhaps he might, if they can implicate VP and bring him down at the same time, leaving the coast clear for Ryan to take the seat, which I think he's the 2nd in line for after VP, is that right?

TheClaws · 20/03/2017 00:34

I believe so. I don't think it would take much for him to flip - I think he already has, privately. It's just his integrity that would suffer, I suppose, but since he has already done I fair bit of flipping from side to side I guess it doesn't matter that much.

UnGoogleable · 20/03/2017 00:42

Well he could save face by being seen to be the one and only 'respectable Republican' willing to step in and save the day when POTUS & VP get impeached.

I bet he's loving this.

I'm convinced they're just allowing Trump to manufacture enough rope to hang himself, and then they'll turn on him and stab him in the back in a flash.

TheClaws · 20/03/2017 01:04

ijr.com/2017/03/827413-transcript-independent-journal-reviews-sit-interview-secretary-state-rex-

From the conservative Independent Journal of Review. An excerpt:

"In his first sit-down interview since becoming secretary of state, Rex Tillerson spoke with Independent Journal Review's Erin McPike about the challenges of American diplomacy with China, the imminent threat of North Korea's nuclear capabilities, and his reasoning behind his limited press access.

This interview was provided to the traveling press." OF ONE (my bold)

TheClaws · 20/03/2017 01:11

Ungoogleable I don't know about the enough rope scenario - all of them would be coming out of this looking and smelling distinctly dirty. The GOP is being further damaged every day Trump stays in office. I do think someone, somewhere is looking for that golden piece of evidence, or collecting a sheaf of intelligence against Trump, and we just have to wait until the time is right. It will happen.

TrueBlueDem · 20/03/2017 04:27

Claws, that's what we are hoping, that all the GOP will be covered in the stink. Because you have to go pretty far down the line of succession to find a non-deplorable. I wish we could just have an election redo.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 20/03/2017 06:57

I wish we could just have an election redo.

A lot of Brits feel the same about the Brexit referendum.

BiglyBadgers · 20/03/2017 08:18

If only we could just pretend 2016 never happened and all go back and try again.

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Lweji · 20/03/2017 08:30

In the meantime, I hear bye suggest we could look at Trump's "quotes" and what they may "mean", with some "dry humour":

"Wire tapping" and 11 other words and phrases Trump has tweeted in quotes

edition.cnn.com/2017/03/17/politics/trump-tweet-quote-words/index.html?sr=twCNN031817trump-tweet-quote-words0816AMVODtopLink&linkId=35593278

Lweji · 20/03/2017 08:35

"Team spirit"

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White House installs political aides at Cabinet agencies to monitor secretaries’ loyalty to the president t.co/qLr7V49osQ

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:38

The only way Paul Ryan will turn on Trump is if Pence is being taken down as well, IMO. And I think you know why.......

he's not going to turn on Trump unless something big is in it for him. He is an entitled opportunist.

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:39

George Takei‏Verified account @GeorgeTakei 7h7 hours ago
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Congress is now fast-tracking a law that will all internet services to sell your data without your permission. Be vigilant, friends.

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:40

I hate the ever tighter circle around him as you know things are wrong there.

CNN Politics‏Verified account @CNNPolitics 4h4 hours ago
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Kellyanne Conway's husband is tapped for a role at the Department of Justice cnn.it/2n3D8Ck

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:41

The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 3m3 minutes ago
Germany reacts to President Trump's visit: "Once again, we've seen Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" nyti.ms/2mH8yeF

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:44

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur 23m23 minutes ago

  1. CNN reporting that Ukraine asked Comey for help questioning Paul Manafort in Ukraine corruption case but received no cooperation from FBI pic.twitter.com/kZVZbEXNnW
GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:46

The whole thread on that....

Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur Mar 11

  1. Politico reporting that FBI/State looking into Manafort's contact with Kilimnick–dude linked to Russian intel/GRU–during the campaign pic.twitter.com/ehMVf2FOz5
  1. Kilminick is accused of not only being a back channel to GRU–which hacked DNC–but of also traveling to US to shape GOP's Russia platform pic.twitter.com/wRQxDLdAcg
  1. These latest reports explain why Manafort was careful to choose his words when asked last month if he was in contact with Russian intel pic.twitter.com/fGCHWFfpo2
  1. Manafort, Kilimnik are also partners on Ukraine work, dating back to 2005.

K visits US in April–days before Trump's pro-Russia speech. pic.twitter.com/2VsIpj5vo8

  1. Following his April visit, Kilimnik travels again to the US, returning to Ukraine to brag that he helped amend GOP's Russia platform pic.twitter.com/8vjYyXPsC5
  1. CNN reporting that Ukraine asked Comey for help questioning Paul Manafort in Ukraine corruption case but received no cooperation from FBI pic.twitter.com/kZVZbEXNnW
  1. Law firm in Ukraine corruption case helped jail Manafort client's/Putin puppet's rival, hired Manafort's daughter twitter.com/natashabertrand/status/843300256645369856
GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:47

Reuters Top News‏Verified account @Reuters 2m2 minutes ago
Syrian army and rebels fight fiercely in northeast Damascus reut.rs/2mLvtGp

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:50

CNN‏Verified account @CNN 4m4 minutes ago
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Trump may move GOP health care bill to the right, dooming it in the Senate cnn.it/2miGQti

So apparently "key" Republicans were meeting over the healthcare bill this weekend at Tsar-alago. So more people staying there that the government is paying Trump for........ anyone else seeing a pattern as to why he is having these meetings at Tsar-alago??? Extra money for him.

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 08:59

Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ 8h8 hours ago
New York state’s attorney general is preparing to escalate his office’s litigation against the White House on.wsj.com/2npFsEN

GingerIvy · 20/03/2017 09:08

This Mulvaney is an absolute twat. Unbelievable spin he's putting on this. "We're being compassionate to supporters" by not making their taxes go to those we feel are not worthy.

POLITICO‏Verified account @politico 5m5 minutes ago
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Mulvaney: Trump's budget shows 'compassion' to supporters politi.co/2mGuB56

annandale · 20/03/2017 09:10

Alternative placemark.

egosumquisum1 · 20/03/2017 09:14

""Later, when Trump, using his rumoured second language, English, blathered about wiretapping, German chancellor Angela Merkel could barely suppress a contemptuous grimace. Merkel didn’t get a lovely cuddle, she was even denied an Oval Office handshake, to which she responded with the serene expression of a mother refusing to be provoked by her armpit-farting teenager.

All this during just one week – dare we dream that the right kind of body language is finally winning the silent battle of the words in the White House""

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/19/donald-trump-angela-merkel-body-language

Lweji · 20/03/2017 10:08

rumoured second language
Grin

The Guardian Opinion
In Donald Trump’s fantasy world, hints of reality are dawning

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/20/trump-fantasy-reality-travel-ban-nato-funding?CMP=twt_gu

I hope he's right.

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