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I didn't write this thread title, I'm just quoting a really intelligent and talented poster on the last Trump thread

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BiglyBadgers · 19/03/2017 11:43

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TrueBlueDem · 23/03/2017 18:34

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@DevinNunes made a big deal about opposing leaks. Now he is disseminating unsourced leaks and running to the White House to coordinate them

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:37

Wow. Angry Spice is really reaching on this. He's reduced Manafort from "campaign chairman" (which he was) to "man who was employed for 5 months." Sad.

Jonathan Beeley‏ @foreignpolicy77 1m1 minute ago
#Spicer manages to go semi-nuclear whilst 'word salading' his defence of #Trump's ties to #Russia. This doesn't come close to convincing. pic.twitter.com/8uAF5TUm6w

7Days · 23/03/2017 18:38

I've been lurking loads on these threads and wanted to thank the contributers.

It actually is unbelieable, in't it?
The longer it goes on the worse it will be. In policy terms of course, but also the damage done to standards and norms. I quite like standards, norms, even the odd streak of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy at least affirms notions of right and wrong.

Lweji · 23/03/2017 18:39

Another one on (possibly) Putin's belt.

Denis Voronenkov: ex-Russian MP who fled to Ukraine killed in Kiev

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/23/former-russian-mp-denis-voronenkov-shot-dead-in-kiev

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:41

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 3m3 minutes ago
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JUST IN: White House scoffs at CNN report on Trump associates' alleged Russian collusion hill.cm/ZZM3OFH

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:43

ABC News‏Verified account @ABC 58s58 seconds ago
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Trump administration lawyers ask court to move quickly on revised travel ban appeal. abcn.ws/2nLlaq4

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:44

It's of "national importance and should be reviewed quickly" but it took them 4 weeks to put it in place, even though they had it done, they were just waiting for the right moment?? They were quoted in the media that they delayed it to allow Trump his "moment" after his national address.

Shot themselves in the foot again.

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:46

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Sean Spicer just compared Paul Manafort and Roger Stone to someone that Trump sat next to on a plane or went to grad school with.

Caroline O.‏ @RVAwonk 3m3 minutes ago
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Caroline O. Retweeted Chris Geidner
So I guess we know who's getting thrown under the bus...

lionheart · 23/03/2017 18:46

Funny how you can get nostalgic for 'the odd streak of hypocrysy' and the more traditional peccadilloes. Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2017 18:48

www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html

Is this what you're referring to, True? I certainly hope they've found that 'smoking gun'!! I think it's going to end up being Manafort spilling his guts. He's already proven to be a man with no loyalties to anyone but himself. And hopefully he's not going to be willing to take the fall for Trump!

DH and I were discussing this just this morning. What's going to happen if there's no direct tie to Trump but it's proven that the Russians absolutely interfered with the election process. He's very wily and you know he's put many, many layers between himself and direct evidence of collusion. You know Trump won't willingly resign because of Russian interference and there would be no grounds for impeachment. Would the SCOTUS invalidate the election? Then what? They give the job to Hillary? They rule for a new election? It's just unprecedented.

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 18:48

The Hill‏Verified account @thehill 20s20 seconds ago
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#BREAKING: Senate confirms Trump's pick for Israel ambassador hill.cm/5McfZv9

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2017 18:48

mobile.twitter.com/justin_kanew/status/844980977181118464

Watch spicer dissemble

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 23/03/2017 18:49

We are on p39. Who is going to be thread-starter for the next?

CaveMum · 23/03/2017 18:49

Not sure whether to laugh or cry over this video:

twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/844639765249056769

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/03/2017 18:50

Daily Trix‏ @DailyTrix
As Spicer does his best to try and distance Trump from Manafort, it's useful to remember that Manafort lives in Trump Tower.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2017 18:53

ha lion!

What I wouldn't give for a good old fashioned 'sex scandal' or a bit of bribery. Sigh.

Instead we have corruption, foreign influence, suspicious Russian deaths, lies, and more corruption.

lionheart · 23/03/2017 18:55

Oh my word, CaveMum.

7Days · 23/03/2017 19:01

To get rid of Trump the case has to be absolutely watertight. He has a lot of people believing he is the persecuted victim of a libtard plot. They will believe NOTHING against him. How do you convince people to turn away from him? MS Media can't. Law is too easily manipulated by the alt media. And now I think the give him enough rope strategy will fail too. It'll all be media lies. Fake news indeed.
Trumps people are complacent and I'd say the dominant emotion is humiliation, even if they dont recognise it. Increasingly irrelevant. Economically, sure, but also culturally. This angers them, and angry people with a persecution mindset + guns are.... unstable.

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:01

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The group proposing to cut breast cancer screening, maternity care, and contraceptive coverage. pic.twitter.com/CxsrxZmcqz

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:02

Chad Sarno‏ @Wanderer19 44s44 seconds ago
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CNN calls out Sean Spicer with brutal split-screen as he tries to explain cuts to maternity care www.rawstory.com/2017/03/cnn-calls-out-sean-spicer-with-brutal-split-screen-as-he-tries-to-explain-cuts-to-maternity-care/#.WNQbXxKeUiY.twitter

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:03

Steve Kopack‏Verified account @SteveKopack 3m3 minutes ago
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal landlord rules Trump's Washington hotel doesn't violate lease terms forbidding benefits to elected officials

FFS.

lionheart · 23/03/2017 19:07

This looked like a close call in Antwerp: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39369202

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:08

The Independent‏Verified account @Independent 6m6 minutes ago
US Senate votes to allow sale of people's browsing history without consent www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/us-senate-internet-privacy-bill-vote-sell-consumer-data-browsing-history-a7646981.html

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:18

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Speaker Ryan press conference, originally scheduled for 11:30 and postponed to 3:30, has just now been postponed until further notice

GingerIvy · 23/03/2017 19:22

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Reuters: REPUBLICAN SENATORS BEING TOLD BY MCCONNELL THAT HOUSE NOT LIKELY TO VOTE ON HEALTHCARE BILL UNTIL MONDAY -SENIOR SENATE AIDE