I didn't write this thread title, I'm just quoting a really intelligent and talented poster on the last Trump thread

[BiglyBadgers]

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Adam B. Kushner‏Verified account @AdamBKushner 15m15 minutes ago
How Trump torpedoed certain applications to U.S. universities. By @dandrezner wapo.st/2mnSUJH?tid=ss_tw …

Lweji - they've not changed the national security level recently either. Credible threat or excuse, I wonder?

Spicer warns Mexico not to celebrate too soon re: paying for the wall: "It's a little early to be claiming victory

I'd love to know his bright ideas on how they'll force Mexico to pay for it.

Up 1 more to 27 GOP that refuse to sign the healthcare bill.

Credible threat or excuse, I wonder?

I'm going with excuse, that's what I'm getting at. :)

Lweji Re Mexico, it is certain to be tied to NAFTA.

Huffington Post‏Verified account @HuffingtonPost 1m1 minute ago
People aren't happy the Trump kids are vacationing in Aspen huff.to/2nxt0mD pic.twitter.com/1seekcweYk

Holy shit. 100 SS with them??? Can you imagine the bill to the taxpayers?!?!?! How is this even remotely okay?

I can understand just why they decided to move Ivanka into the WH but the timing was way out vis a vis the passage of legislation.

But, if they impose tariffs on imports, it will be the US taxpayer who'll suffer.
And if they impose tariffs on exports, it will be US companies that will suffer. And it's likely that the trade deficit would increase.

That's why they haven't gone very far yet.

Oh, and convenient that she can be a handy go between for Trump and his sons re the business, eh?

CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 1m1 minute ago
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New ban on electronics in carry-ons tracks back to 2016 bombing, U.S. official says: cbsn.ws/2nH0XS7

The Independent‏Verified account @Independent 3m3 minutes ago
Cinco de Mayo carnival cancelled amid immigration crackdown fears ind.pn/2nH6mZE

Lweji You're assuming they'll use common sense. It's like they shoot themselves in the foot, and laugh maniacally "look, I'm bleeding all over your carpet." But they don't yet peg that... um, hello, you've shot yourself in the foot.

Someone will use common sense, I do think. But I suppose they can keep saying it will happen for a while now.

I guess that Wall St traders won't achieve an early night tonight.

I agree 100% with the HC tweets. The double standards were disgraceful.

I spoke to an old friend recently re Trump. She loathes him too. But she said that as HC was such a poor candidate "not much better than Trump" and I asked what she meant by that. "She's corrupt and has killed people"

If this intelligent, liberal woman believed it - what hope did Hillary have?

Oh and Ginger fab reporting of the rally last night. It was like I was watching it without seeing him and giving myself nightmares

I watched 10 minutes to my eternal disquiet - so Yes. Thanks Ginger.

Yes, the Guardian is canny to follow the money trail and all those attempts to conceal it.

microwavespy I had a similar conversation but with my dp

It's really difficult to navigate.

I may have had a short conversation similar to that with my DH *microwave". He is a big Bernie fan and to be fair I don't think he had entirely thought about what he was saying. I told him in no uncertain terms that while Hillary and Obama may have had policies and carried out actions i did not agree with neither were in anyway acting outside the law or attempting to dismantle the very foundations of democratic government. Someone unethically increasing drone strikes is not even on the same continent as acting to impose a dictatorship funded and supported by Russian money. Needless to say we will not be having that conversation again

If nothing else comes out of this whole business the fact that Teen Vogue has completely shot all my shallow expectations of it out the water will remain a lesson to me. Their reporting on the Trump administration has been really very good.

ICE Publishes List of Crimes Committed By Undocumented Immigrants
www.teenvogue.com/story/ice-publish-list-crimes-undocumented-immigrants-sanctuary-cities?mbid=social_twitter

You can't, I think, change the heart of a 'believer' - at least not easily, and certainly not 'en masse'. It's possible to explain your position fully to someone, though, who is ......'in-between'. And to have hope that they'll understand.

If this intelligent, liberal woman believed it - what hope did Hillary have?

Well, I don't know your friend, but I do have some doubts about her intelligence if she believed that crap which comes straight from the alt-right play book. Intelligent liberal people usually do a bit of research to find out the truth.

Interesting, Bigly. My own experience of youngsters on this side of the pond is that they generally have a dreadfully low opinion of 45 but that they're relying on the 'grown-ups' to ........get things under control.