To think that people living on welfare shouldn't be running off every five minutes for a new tattoo or piercing?

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I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but I just had a little disagreement with a woman I know. She posted a photo on Facebook of a rather large tattoo on her forearm that she'd just had done. Last month she had skin divers put in her chest and hand. The month before she had another shit tattoo.
This individual is single and has two children. She hasn't worked a day in the last decade, but is living off the state. Am I being a bitch by thinking she should spend the money she receives on feeding the children and keeping a roof over their heads? I noted that she feeds her boys Pot Noodle for dinner but makes sure she's got her fags too. It just annoys me.

Away Yes, my DH gets private healthcare through work so we don't use the NHS. I wish we could opt-out of paying into it.

I think some of the posts on this thread are nothing short of chilling.

Thanks Pixies

Well you make sure that lasts you the next twenty years Annesmythe123 don't want you getting above your station.

Away Yes, my DH gets private healthcare through work so we don't use the NHS. I wish we could opt-out of paying into it.
Is that so you don't have to pay for poor folk? Benefit scroungers? Disabled people like my dc?

Alfieisnoisy

Carer here too. Had to give up a well paid job after having a disabled child.
I could post how about my childhood to parents who didn't work, council estate born and bred, how I ran away during my GCSEs, ended up having to work two jobs and manage full time college whilst living in the worst circumstances, how I ended up a higher rate taxpayer....

You know what? My experience made me MORE empathetic to the children who are born into these circumstances, they neither choose or control their childhood, to suggest cutting the support further to satisfy vile, nasty, twats (food stamps? Wtf?) is abhorant. Your tax will still be taken, my husbands tax will still be taken. I did that when there really was a safety net in place.

Vouchers won't stop the few who prioritise other things over their children, the cost of administering the scheme would be huge and the black market would be booming.

I and other carers save the NHS shed loads of money for the princely sum of £62 a week. Fuck off with the idea I should receive my carers allowance in vouchers.

Dawn Apologies. There should be a set amount for things like that (not bills) each year that gets sent to each household in vouchers. Bills paid by the government directly.

I admit I'm biased and not at all compassionate.

Dawn No, it's so I don't have to pay for a system I don't use.

1. Yes, all benefits paid in food stamps.2. Yes, separate vouchers that can only be used for gas/electricity

So....what about freedom of choice....my decision to go without heat this week because I need to get the bus to the hospital everyday to visit my mum? why would you seek to take this away from people - the experience of managing a budget? isn't that what we are suggesting benefit claimants need to do?

how do you allow benefit claimants the same freedom of choice to shop around for their clothes, their travel, their phone contracts, their internet contracts, gas, electric, water etc. in the same way non-claimants can? How do you go to a car boot and pick up cheap clothing for you and your kids if you only have clothing vouchers for Asda?

And you know another of my pet hates? The benefits class will wear those cheap imitation UGG boots where the heals run lop sided after 50 yards.

RedPoll I'm on benefits (sorry I was in work before but my body and my mental health failed me so I've been signed off long term - I did work since I was 16 though). I massively object to this because I wouldn't be seen dead in ugg boots. Imitation or otherwise.

Here you go Take, see how much you would be saving yourself

app.wheredoesmymoneygo.orgdailybread.html

I home educate my disabled children because there isn't sufficient funding to give them a decent school place so you can also see how much I'm helping to save you too whilst churning my benefits back into the economy by paying for it all out of my benefits (I can' guarantee you it won't be much because investment in education - the furutre workers of this country who will be paying taxes to support the rest of the country) comes way down on the list. Note where the majority of your taxes go...

I used to have a pair of those imitation Uggs that my mum bought for me from a bloke in a pub . I wore them for four hours and they went lopsided and sprung a leak. Fucking shit.

I have private healthcare too, takesthis. I am not dumb enough to think that this means I shouldn't pay for:

NHS care that I had when younger; everything from my mother's labour to my orthodontist

The NHS care that I might need if I change jobs or lose my job

Other people who need it

I am quite right wing in a lot of respects compared to a lot of posters here, but that "I'm alright jack" attitude is the worst I've ever seen!!

Maybe they could be given Ugg vouchers.

Not me, last year I paid a fuck load in NI and tax (£8,603 income tax and £4,231 National Insurance) and claimed fuck all

You never used a public road? had your bins collected? used a council run swimming pool? sent your children to school? visited your GP?

Jeez. I'm just glad I'm not a bitter person like many seem to be on this thread. I'd hate to have so much hate in me for people I don't even know.

Bullshit to the never use the NHS because your husband has private healthcare. If you suffer a complication during a procedure at a private hospital and you need HDU/ITU care, you're shipped out to the NHS. Any idea how much an ITU bed costs per day? I'll tell you, £2000.
Never needed to use Accident and Emergency?
Never visited your GP?

Anyway, I'm taking my own advice and I'm out.

Also, you don't even have your own policy - you leech off your DP's work policy? So you don't even pay your own health insurance premium. But you want to stop others from having free health care??

God forbid you ever split up, eh?!

I can't believe that MNHQ haven't even commented on this thread.

Also, sorry but £8,603 is not a "fuckload" of income tax, unless it's per month!

If you've paid £8k tax no way are you a HR tax payer. HR tax payers pay a fuckload more, if the Tories are to be believed.

I can't make out if you sound very bitter or in desperate need of a hug.

If you've paid £8k tax no way are you a HR tax payer. HR tax payers pay a fuckload more, if the Tories are to be believed.

I can't make out if you sound very bitter or in desperate need of a hug.

This woman does sound selfish.

If the tattoos are in an obvious place, won't it hinder her return to work?

Yes, of course you should be able to treat yourself whatever income you have.

Was fully expecting to see the "bun fight" deletion message this morning.

Never quite mention of goady fuckery though.

Yup - as a couple myself and my ex partner paid way more than that and I didn't begrudge one single penny (he did, but that's part of the reason why he's a nasty, abusive ex)