To think that people living on welfare shouldn't be running off every five minutes for a new tattoo or piercing?

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I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but I just had a little disagreement with a woman I know. She posted a photo on Facebook of a rather large tattoo on her forearm that she'd just had done. Last month she had skin divers put in her chest and hand. The month before she had another shit tattoo.
This individual is single and has two children. She hasn't worked a day in the last decade, but is living off the state. Am I being a bitch by thinking she should spend the money she receives on feeding the children and keeping a roof over their heads? I noted that she feeds her boys Pot Noodle for dinner but makes sure she's got her fags too. It just annoys me.

Away - I pay £5,000 a month in tax and more in NI, and DF who is self employed at the age of 77 just paid a 6 figure tax bill. Those are HR tax amounts, not £8k a year.

Applebite but that's per month month, that's my point. Take said in a year, well that's what I took from her post anyway here:

last year I paid a fuck load in NI and tax (£8,603 income tax and £4,231 National Insurance) and claimed fuck all

Some posts on here are vile.

I didn't work for two years because I tried to kill myself after my son died, I'd much rather he didn't and I could of gone back to work.

I imagine there's plenty arseholes out there that begrudge "paying for my lifestyle" but I somehow doubt they'd like to swap places with me.

If you want to know what a persons like, take a good look at how they treat there inferiors, not there equals.

I actually don't think anyone unable to work should be respected less then anyone who does, some people clearly do.

Unborn - I welcome them to join me:

Depression, anxiety and CPTSD.
Frequent debilitating insomnia.
Childhood abuse
Donestic violence
And exhusband who skipped the country taken all of our belongings and our marital assets with him whilst paying zero child maintenance
An ex partner who looks at women and children as a drain on him
2 children with high needs
No family
Little support

Join me - just for a day.

unborn

You know what pisses me off? People will say "oh I have no problem with people claiming benefits who really need them" blah blah. As if they personally know every single benefit claimant and their individual situation.

Imagine living in a society where we only deem certain people "deserving" of help.

It's such a shame that so many people seem to be going to the 'benefit claimants are lazy fat scroungers' side.

The one thing I loved about the UK is the way we treat our vulnerable. You can't say that anymore.

Yes, there will always be a handful of people who take advantage of the system and waste money on themselves while their kids go without (that goes for people with money too) but the attitudes here of some are so disgusting, it is heartbreaking really.

If the tattoos are in an obvious place, won't it hinder her return to work?

Depends on the job. I work for the NHS, plenty of nurses and paramedics have visible tattoos. I am a nursing assistant and have visible tattoos and it has never been an issue. If they are on the face and neck it might make a difference but most work places are quite relaxed about them.

You're supposed to go to the library.

Use Google books. But then you need internet, right?

Unborn

I see that loads of insulting and goady goats posts have been deleted. Good.

@Dontactlikeyouknowme

Yes love I DO know a woman with 5 kids (more than 1 father involved)- and yes I do think it's a pisstake, since all she does is take from the system- and always has- and I can't see that changing any time soon.....
Nothing wrong with having lots of children if you can financially support them without their entire support coming from people who bother to go to work every day!

' High earners without children who don't use the NHS who are working hard, pay fucking tonnes into the system and get jackshit out. I'm one of them. '

You get jackshit out of living in a country with a stable infrastructure, all the trappings of a stable government (with a military, police, fire personnel, etc. paid by that government) that allow you to go and do whatever you please largely unmolested and you think that's 'jackshit'? It's the height of ignorance to believe taxes are like some kind of bank, and if you don't get a cash dividend you're somehow being cheated when you live in a first world nation like this one.

Children related benefits are not for the parents. They are for the children.
It doesn't matter how many children people have.
If those children went into care they'd have to be supported too.

Children are important for societies, and we don't know who will be the most valuable. We simply need to invest in them and give them the best chances in life.
If anything, they need more support to be able to realise their potential when they are born in disadvantaged settings.

When some of you are older (particularly those with no children), you'll be thankful for other people's children who will take care of you and make sure you are not left to rot in a corner.
You may have the money to pay for care, but without those children there would be nobody to do it.

It depends where she got it done... or if she's been saving up for this tattoo. Skin divers are about £20-40 depending where you go.

Dawndonnaagain Fri 10-Mar-17 12:05:15
Yes, with vouchers
Will Waterstones accept them or am I not allowed books whilst on benefits?

Erm...library's have been around for some time, you know. I've heard it all now. Do you seriously think benefits are there to spend at bloody Waterstones? I agree with everything the op has posted.

Books are great, you can pick them up in charity shops half the time anyway.

Surely this is a positive way to spend money rather than the cliched fags and booze and sky telly accusations.

I have been reading this for the last two days and just had to comment on what Take this or whatever her name is said. How could anyone want to stop their miniscule taxes funding the NHS? I am absolutely sickened. Can't say any more than that.

Thanks, I've come to terms with it now and my MH is back on track.

My situation wasn't unique, 17 women suffer through stillbirth and neonatal deaths. It's not something you can bounce back from. That's not accounting for accidents meningitis, cancer.

Bereavement, Ill health, accidents, abuse, mental breakdown and I could carry on listing things.

You don't know what people are going through and no one on here gets to decide who is worthy of claiming benefits!

And fuck off with the different fathers shite, it's been done to death.

Op I can't believe that people don't agree with you! More than half of my family are people like this. More than half the people I know are exactly like this! They have tattoos, smoke, drink and spend a hell of a lot on take aways! They do not raise there children well and swear and shout at them and sit on their phones more than talking to their children. Op I totally agree with you and those that say different maybe need to take a hard look at themselves or the neighbour next door!

Well my brother is a mid to high earner. He has no kids and pays shed loads of tax and NI. I don't think he has been to the doctors in years. But you know what he doesn't moan because he is a decent person who believes in supporting those who need extra help.
My sister is one such person. She has a mild learning disability I believe but got a job straight from school in a factory. She would still be there now if some tossers hadn't brought the name and sold the factory.
She is o so rich on £73 per week.
She has no life really. By the time she has paid all her bills. Gas, electricity house insurance, water rates, council tax, land-line phone, TV license, travel to job centre to sign on and food there is little left for anything else. She can only afford crap shoes and they don't last as she has to walk to library to job search daily as she can't afford any form of internet at home.
How would you decide how much you give in vouchers? How much for gas and electric etc? Would the land-line and TV have to go as we can't have taxpayers paying for such luxury items? Despite the fact that she was a taxpayer for 30 years and if you take this logic has probably subsided the education and birth of many peoples children.
The attitudes displayed by some on this thread are disgusting. OK there are some individuals who give claimants a bad name but they are the exception rather than the rule.
And as for the victim blaming. I have no words.

RE: libraries... not everywhere has a library accessible to them, whether it's through disability or the fact there isn't one. Libraries are one of the services hit by council cuts, whether it's reducing the hours (my local library has been reduced to 3 and bit days now), getting rid of the library altogether or removal of mobile libraries.

Charity shops or second-hand book shops are a cheaper alternative, sometimes you find some decent gems in there.

O and she doesn't drink or smoke and definitely no tattoos.

It's a real shame about the libraries. Fortunately where I am there is one in walking distance. I do think some people make poor life choices though and expect other people to fund their lifestyle.