To think that people living on welfare shouldn't be running off every five minutes for a new tattoo or piercing?

[allfurcoatandnoknickers1]

I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but I just had a little disagreement with a woman I know. She posted a photo on Facebook of a rather large tattoo on her forearm that she'd just had done. Last month she had skin divers put in her chest and hand. The month before she had another shit tattoo.
This individual is single and has two children. She hasn't worked a day in the last decade, but is living off the state. Am I being a bitch by thinking she should spend the money she receives on feeding the children and keeping a roof over their heads? I noted that she feeds her boys Pot Noodle for dinner but makes sure she's got her fags too. It just annoys me.

I think i like this thread more than the horse on benefits thread.

Was it claiming DLHay? Did someone dob(bin) it in to the DWP? Most importantly, did it have tattoos?

(I do remember the thread you're on about really )

I honestly recall something was happening to these vouchers, they were being reduced or something, my friend was/is quite the leftie, so she'd had a rant about benefit cuts, her mate replied bla bla uniform vouchers. I honestly joked that she'd have to cut down her Sky package from the full caboodle, I got total vitriol. I was expecting to apologise, with something like, sorry I was thinking about the family on benefits stereotype. It turned out she ticked every box.

I thought it was a myth that people could feel so self entitled whilst claiming working peoples tax. I was very wrong.

I heard DH had seen a relative look heavily pregnant in a superstore, I enquired and thought ah the 3 child limit. Making sure she gets in before the deadline.

It's like a self fulfilling prophecy of people knowing how to play the system wring every last penny they can. Those that are genuinely in need find the prospect beyond depressing, plus have very little idea how it works.

I don't really know what to say. Nothing I've said here is imagined, but I've been accused of being a troll, a goady fucker, not knowing my family history, being a fantasist. Ok. But being a thief, because that's what stealing your child's benefits for tattoos amounts to to me, that's acceptable? I'll take being called the liar, the trouble maker, the prejudiced cunt. To me that's better than being the lazy, feckless, tattooed mum who had her priorities all skewed.

So, your dad was a thief? Using his salary to pay for drinks instead of supporting his family.

Do you have any tattoos, OP?

Would you describe your dad as feckless?

Making sure she gets in before the deadline

Delightful.

Lweji, allfurcoat dad is not a thief as he uses his salary to pay for his drinks. The woman allfurcoat is referring to may be considered as thief as she is using money specifically allocated for her children for her benefit. That money is given to her by the state to use for the children. I was say she is in fact akin to a trustee of that money for her children and using it for tattoos and them complaining that she can't pay for lesson for her children is tantamount to breach of trust and so yes she is a thief of sorts.

Tattoos I would think are luxury therefore they shouldn't be paid for by the taxpayer

Says who, topnap?

So op if you can say for sure that this woman's children will become lazy and overweight and a burden on taxpayers etc etc than why have you not turned into a high functioning alcoholic? History repeating itself and all that.

topnap

I hope you aren't claiming child benefit. I demand to know what you spend it on. I am a childless tax payer.

Wind your fucking neck in love.

By applying blood sweat and tears OP was able to fight the demons of alcoholism, Cat.

The chilblains, not so much.

Yep, I would totally describe my dad as feckless. Do his actions make you feel better about yours?

Must be hard being so bitter and vindictive inside OP.

Shows how far the media brainwashing about benefit claimants has gone though

People shouldnt be allowed to.parent because they aren't working?

This woukd have been viewed as an abhorrent far right view in past

The state are operating a benefits cap and only the first 2 children attract any benefits from April.

What happens if a woman gets pregnant with 3rd or fourth? Give up for adoption?
Abortion?
Deprived children?

It sounds great.

No not that great as it should stop at 1 child. I mean what's the point? To have children when you are offering nothing to the country other that further offspring which become the same as you do is fundumentally flawed.
Before the posters come out of the woodwork and say
My friend was born into a large non working benefits family and she became a doctor

I will be the first to say I hope she bought a lottery ticket as with the gods looking down on you there will be some further luck to come

It statistically known that people breed in the UK for benefits, nothing else.
Why would you want to bring children into the world when you have nothing to offer them. Unfortunately the cliche' of ' I have nothing but they have all the love in the world doesn't wash anymore

I stand by what I say there should be no-one who does nothing in this country. We need to take away the ethos of its a given Right to receive benefits as they have done in parts of the USA.
If you receive benefits you need to work and govemerment run schemes too put you digging ditches, or even washing the windows and putting the bin out for an OAP would give you credibility for your cause.

In the meantime we shall sit back and enjoy the unlimited contestants for the Jeremy Kyle show for the ongoing amusement for the hard working social class to enjoy.

Its ok for the OP's dad to be feckless because he had a miraculous career history and made sure OP's mum wasn't feckless by forcing her to pick brussels with chilblains - what a hero! If he hadn't drank all the money OP's mum might have become lazy and spent the money on tattoos instead.

Ah the future of the Tory party eh Redpoll, delightful as it always has been. I don't think the US is a really good example to hold up of how to run a country and its welfare system...

How about looking at countries that actually dragged themselves out of poverty into modern social welfare states with high levels of equality? Like the country I live in, where our Constitution dictates the following:

^Those who cannot obtain the means necessary for a life of dignity have the right to receive indispensable
subsistence and care.
Everyone shall be guaranteed by an Act the right to basic subsistence in the event of unemployment, illness, and
disability and during old age as well as at the birth of a child or the loss of a provider.
The public authorities shall guarantee for everyone, as provided in more detail by an Act, adequate social, health and
medical services and promote the health of the population. Moreover, the public authorities shall support families
and others responsible for providing for children so that they have the ability to ensure the wellbeing and personal
development of the children^

That's the right, and ethical, way to go.

Show us the statistics redpoll