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AIBU? Neighthours and dropped kerb

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 13:09

Right so we own a bourse with a dropped kerb directly outside our house. Next door do not have a dropped kerb they have a big tree at the end of their driveway assuming they can't get permission for a dropped kerb. Anyway so we have 2 cars next door has one. They use our dropped kerb to access their driveway as they wouldn't be able to access it otherwise. Last night my partners car was parked on our drive, I parked on our dropped kerb and was taking the shopping in. Next door pulled up behind me beeping their horn. I continued to get the things out the car took them to my front door, he beeped the horn again and I shouted wait. I then got the baby aged 5 months out the car and came To the front door to which my partner had now opened the door to see what was going on. I walked back to my car and got my toddler as he didn't want to get out the car. Next door beeped the horn again. Aibu in thinking his an arse and you know what he should be grateful as, Correct me if I'm wrong I'm allowed to park on my dropped kerb. And if it weren't for us he wouldn't be to access his drive without using our dropped kerb.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 15:19

Clearly some posters are not reading the whole post. The shopping was already out I was getting the children. It was a ONE OFF.

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HashiAsLarry · 08/03/2017 15:19

Our neighbour has blocked our drive before, needing the space to get a large item into their house. When we showed up they apologised profusely and asked us to wait. DH parked somewhere else then went and helped the neighbours shift the item. We sort of thought that was the nice thing to do.

Maybe he should just beep at them repetitively if they ever do it again Confused

SloanyAnne · 08/03/2017 15:19

I'd be checking deeds OP. That doorway through to the back looks as if it might well belong to your neighbour and you might have a right to use it but not own it. That would mean that they also own the strip of tarmac which you'd have a right to use for access but not to park on.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:20

Do they drive over the pavement or your driveway?

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:21

Clearly it's not his drop otherwise they wouldn't be enquiring about it!!

Not true.

You need to see the deeds

Actually, easements acquired by prescription will not appear on the deeds. This would be an easement over the OP's end of the driveway if he needs to use it in order to get his car onto his own drive.

LIZS · 08/03/2017 15:21

You don't own the dropped kerb unless your land on the deeds extends to the roadway. Regardless of who paid for it. Therefore its use is not exclusive. If you have space for 2 cars on your front land (as pic suggests) I'm not clear how or why you had to park such that he could not also get in.

Bluntness100 · 08/03/2017 15:22

Op you're still maybe missing the point, because the previous owner paid the council to drop the kerb doesn't mean the pavement then becomes hers. Pavements are normally owned by the council. You need to check your boundary docs, but it would be very unusual to own the pavement in this scenario,

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:22

Clearly some posters are not reading the whole post. The shopping was already out I was getting the children. It was a ONE OFF

OK fine. Hopefully there won't be any more issue with it then. Be very careful about neighbour feuds because it can adversely affect you trying to sell your house in the future.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 15:23

OK PEOPLE

SOME OF YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT READING THE WHOLE POST

JUST GRABBING BITS OF INFO HERE AND THERE

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Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:24

does the drop extend as far as the tree op?

Who paid to get the original drop done?

What was the agreement re access at that time?

Was there a wall between the properties? Was it removed? If so, by who, and for what purpose?

BurningBridges · 08/03/2017 15:26

I agree with badtime - OP you don't appear to have all the facts so you need to get your paperwork out from when you got the house - do you have the Deeds? Is that a shared rear access I can see there?

If you can afford it, I'd go for a wall. I've lived in my house with a shared drive (as in it really is shared) for 23+ years and I was only thinking yesterday I wish we'd been able to afford to have all the boundary walls put in. As it stands, everyone and anyone uses our front garden.

But your neighbour is still an arse.

SloanyAnne · 08/03/2017 15:26

No need to get shouty just because you're not getting the response you were looking for.
This is what MN is quite good for - giving a few different perspectives. If you just want people to go there there dear, yes the man was an arse and poor you, can I suggest Netmums as a better option?

Or you could do what others have done and ask for the thread to be removed as it's too identifying.

You''ve had some good advice here but not the sympathy you wanted.

Procrastinator1 · 08/03/2017 15:27

OP did you ask the previous owner how long the neighbours have driven across your property to get to their drive, if indeed they do?

HappyFlappy · 08/03/2017 15:27

If anybody beeped at me like that I'd go even slower. Cheeky fucker.

Same here Housework Angry

665TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 08/03/2017 15:27

Its hard to get a good perspective on whats going on here and clearly we need an ariel photo!
however failing that..
If you re-instated the wall or put a post up on the boundry of you propery would they be able to get onto their driveway?

The diagonal crossing of the pavement is irrelevant
as is "who owns / dosnt own / cant own, the dropped curb"

The issue here is that if they have to make an incursion onto your property to get onto their drivway then they have no legal access to their property with a vehicle, and their driveway is not a driveway - its a badly placed patio - just because it looks like a driveway doesnt make it one.

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:27

OP, what would you do/say if you got back home and your neighbour had parked over the same drop kerb? Presumably you would not be too impressed (you might even start a thread on here about it), but it would the same situation. Basically, fine, he was very impatient with you etc etc. But you were blocking access to his driveway.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 15:28

Some people are clearly not reading the whole post

Simple as that

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Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:29

I have read all your posts. Carefully.

I note you aren't reading or responding to my sensible questions.

Sirzy · 08/03/2017 15:29

Just because people aren't agreeing with you doesn't mean they aren't reading Hmm

You shouldn't have blocked the access. He shouldn't have beeped. You were both in the wrong but what I don't get is why if it was the only time it has been an issue your making such a big deal out of it. Mountain out of molehill springs to mind

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:30

The issue here is that if they have to make an incursion onto your property to get onto their drivway then they have no legal access to their property with a vehicle

Unless the owners of the neighbouring house have been making an incursion for the past 20 years (before the OP bought the house), in which case they do have legal access.

SloanyAnne · 08/03/2017 15:30

I will leave you to your pityfest OP.
Enjoy.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 15:31

They do, they park on the drop kerb every weekday at 8:30am and 2:30pm and also beep there horn

I don't fave a problem with that
But they have a problem me doing it once and clearly see I'm getting the children not just sat there parked like they do.

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allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:31

Some people are clearly not reading the whole post

So why don't you explain the vital information that they are missing then? Easier than just shouting.

Quartz2208 · 08/03/2017 15:31

I have read the thread and the point is it is no more your dropped kerb than it is his.

You can park to unload/load on the dropped kerb in front of your house so you did not do anything wrong so he was wrong to beep you but beyond that it is not your kerb.

I think posters are trying to point out that its your viewpoint that its your property which is wrong, not his unreasonableness.

LIZS · 08/03/2017 15:31

You could always ring the council to clarify the usage, probably county council Highways rather than local council though. His behaviour was aggressive but legally he may well be correct.