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AIBU? Neighthours and dropped kerb

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 13:09

Right so we own a bourse with a dropped kerb directly outside our house. Next door do not have a dropped kerb they have a big tree at the end of their driveway assuming they can't get permission for a dropped kerb. Anyway so we have 2 cars next door has one. They use our dropped kerb to access their driveway as they wouldn't be able to access it otherwise. Last night my partners car was parked on our drive, I parked on our dropped kerb and was taking the shopping in. Next door pulled up behind me beeping their horn. I continued to get the things out the car took them to my front door, he beeped the horn again and I shouted wait. I then got the baby aged 5 months out the car and came To the front door to which my partner had now opened the door to see what was going on. I walked back to my car and got my toddler as he didn't want to get out the car. Next door beeped the horn again. Aibu in thinking his an arse and you know what he should be grateful as, Correct me if I'm wrong I'm allowed to park on my dropped kerb. And if it weren't for us he wouldn't be to access his drive without using our dropped kerb.

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OnionKnight · 08/03/2017 15:31

You both sound like arses but the dropped kerb doesn't belong to you.

Bluntness100 · 08/03/2017 15:32

I've read all your posts. I'm not sure why you're getting so angry, bottom line is it's unlikely you own the pavement, as such he has a right to use it. The fact it was dropped due to the previous tennents needs and actions doesn't mean it's your pavement, or that it was her pavement.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:32

Or have been the right by a previous owner to make the incursion.

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:32

They do, they park on the drop kerb every weekday at 8:30am and 2:30pm and also beep there horn

Agree- they should not be doing that. I hope you ask them to move straight away if they are blocking your access.

Justwantcookies · 08/03/2017 15:33

OP

You say the neighbour woke up your husband because he was beeping. Why were you getting the kids OUT if you thought your husband was asleep and you knew you needed to move the car?

Plus if your blockage was making him beep, why didnt you move the damn car so he wouldnt wake up your husband. What you are saying does not make sense

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 15:33

What makes you assume people aren't reading?
Because they have differing opinions, because they are discussing all parts of your op not just the beeping?

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:33

Are they stopped and beeping or parked? Do they get out of the car or just stop and beep for kids to run from/to car?

Justwantcookies · 08/03/2017 15:34

They do, they park on the drop kerb every weekday at 8:30am and 2:30pm and also beep there horn

I assume as they are beeping the horn they are IN the car and waiting for your neighbour to come out and get int he car so they can drive away. Thats hardly the same as parking there to block you in is it?

LowDudgeon · 08/03/2017 15:35

OP, what would you do/say if you got back home and your neighbour had parked over the same drop kerb?

neighbour has done just that today - or neighbour's partner's friend has - blocking OP in.

Smurfpoo · 08/03/2017 15:36

It sounds like they've not got planning for the drive.

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:38

neighbour has done just that today-or neighbour's partner's friend has - blocking OP in

Yeah, I give up. They both sounds as bad as each other. I would give anything to have off-road parking. Or even to live on a street which seems to have ample on-street parking.

Justwantcookies · 08/03/2017 15:38

Also in your OP you said you 'shouted wait' then in a further post you 'politely asked him to wait' Hmmmm Hmm

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 15:38

Oh And as for not reading your op.
How about this.
First post my PARTNERS car was parked on the drive. But further in you couldn't park on the drive because Last night I couldn't park on my driveway as my partners dad had parked the silver car on the drive ( he took my partners car to the garage and leaving him the corsa) to use while his car was in the garage

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:40

It sounds like they've not got planning for the drive

What on earth are you talking about?

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 15:40

Or maybe people didn't read where you said a wall maybe the way to go and people pointing out actually you might not be able to do this. Regardless of what previous owner told you about who paid for it.

PollyBanana · 08/03/2017 15:40

A lot of fuss about nothing.
The photos don't make it look like parking is at a premium on the road.

I doubt that the land all the way to road belongs to OP.
Most houses of that age, they own front garden to boundary, then the strip of land which may be grassed belongs to council. So NDN might be driving over council land.

kitkat29 · 08/03/2017 15:40

I don't agree with what some pp are saying about the neighbour having a right of way over OP's driveway after 20 years of use. Those laws are designed for gaining right of access, the neighbours access is not being blocked by the OP. If the neighbour wants to park in their garden they should pay out and get a dropped kerb outside their house therefore guaranteeing vehicular access. They currently have no right of access for their vehicles although they are allowed to use the dropped kerb.

PrivatePike · 08/03/2017 15:41

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allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:43

I don't agree with what some pp are saying about the neighbour having a right of way over OP's driveway after 20 years of use. Those laws are designed for gaining right of access, the neighbours access is not being blocked by the OP. If the neighbour wants to park in their garden they should pay out and get a dropped kerb outside their house therefore guaranteeing vehicular access. They currently have no right of access for their vehicles although they are allowed to use the dropped kerb

What? But that is precisely the point. If the neighbour has used the bottom of OP's drive to park on their own drive for 20 years or more, then they HAVE acquired a right of access through prescription. That would make it unlawful for OP to now block that access by for example erecting a wall, meaning that they would not be able to get their car onto the drive from the pavement. That was what I was referring to.

Justwantcookies · 08/03/2017 15:43

KitKat29 the neighbour is not driving over the OPs garden. They are driving over the public path

Laiste · 08/03/2017 15:46

Do they cross your property to get their car in front of their house OP?

In other words: if you had a boundary wall or fence or anything between your houses that a car couldn't cross, would they still be able to get between it and the tree and make it onto their 'drive'?

Justwantcookies · 08/03/2017 15:46

I dont get why people are shouting for legal advice, build a wall, block the bastard. I mean, really? He probably touches a fraction of the OPs drive when he drives into his own. It does not look like a bloody landscaped lawn he is driving over its a crumbly bit of drive.

OP stop blocking your neighbour and being an arse and perhaps in return he will stop hooting at you.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:51

I might enquire of the council can I widen my dropped kerb on to my drive because DD has a car and when she's here and DS is here visiting and DP is here we have to car shuffle and it would be handy. If the council say it would be £2200 and I decide that's too expensive, it won't negate my current right of access.

LowDudgeon · 08/03/2017 15:53

First post my PARTNERS car was parked on the drive. But further in you couldn't park on the drive because Last night I couldn't park on my driveway as my partners dad had parked the silver car on the drive ( he took my partners car to the garage and leaving him the corsa) to use while his car was in the garage

Maybe OP said "partner's car" initially just because it was quicker than explaining all the other stuff?

LIZS · 08/03/2017 15:55

I've found the subsequent post re. Your partner's father's car being on the drive itself where you normally park, but even that doesn't explain why you couldn't park to the rh side of it.