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AIBU? Neighthours and dropped kerb

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 13:09

Right so we own a bourse with a dropped kerb directly outside our house. Next door do not have a dropped kerb they have a big tree at the end of their driveway assuming they can't get permission for a dropped kerb. Anyway so we have 2 cars next door has one. They use our dropped kerb to access their driveway as they wouldn't be able to access it otherwise. Last night my partners car was parked on our drive, I parked on our dropped kerb and was taking the shopping in. Next door pulled up behind me beeping their horn. I continued to get the things out the car took them to my front door, he beeped the horn again and I shouted wait. I then got the baby aged 5 months out the car and came To the front door to which my partner had now opened the door to see what was going on. I walked back to my car and got my toddler as he didn't want to get out the car. Next door beeped the horn again. Aibu in thinking his an arse and you know what he should be grateful as, Correct me if I'm wrong I'm allowed to park on my dropped kerb. And if it weren't for us he wouldn't be to access his drive without using our dropped kerb.

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Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:42

Before I said any more on the Internet or anywhere else I'd be checking deeds. If I were the op.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 14:45

There has never been a problem before.

I don't have a problem with His partners dad parking and beeping the horn everyday at 8:30am and 2:30pm to take her and her child to school.

There has been no problems with the neighbours when there simply could be

Example his fences have all fell down in the garden and he hasn't replaced them. He has put crates up in the gaps where 2 panels are missing

When their dog has got into my house when I was having my kitchen done due to his panels missing in the garden

Just saying.
I am not an unreasonable person.

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badtime · 08/03/2017 14:45

It really does look like part of the dropped kerb is in front of the neighbour's house.

TiredMumToTwo · 08/03/2017 14:46

Sorry op YWBU

Yokohamajojo · 08/03/2017 14:47

He is an arse! as you say it has never been a problem before, why didn't he just pull the window down and asked if you'd be long? very strange behaviour to beep your next door neighbour like that! also very unfortunate that he should need to get on and park right as you were unpacking

BattleaxeGalactica · 08/03/2017 14:49

The starting point is whether or not he goes over any part of your land to access his parking, OP. Does he?

SanitysSake · 08/03/2017 14:52

Minniemagoo has it right. Get that boundary wall put up and good luck to them trying to go up the dropped curb to get into their drive from that angle with a wall and tree there!

Flumpernickel · 08/03/2017 14:52

Quite right Battleaxe, the abswer to that question makes a significant difference imo. OP, does he drive over your driveway to access his front garden, or does he only use the pavement/dropped kerb area as access.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/03/2017 14:53

I think the issue is that you had it in your head that you are doing him sort of a favour by letting him drive over the dropped kerb. But as lots of others have pointed out, you don't own the pavement, and if you are blocking it then actually yes you shouldn't be blocking his access. He's still a dick for beeping like that.

PunjanaTea · 08/03/2017 14:53

If you have to include a massive drip-feed to justify yourself then the chances are that you know in this particular situation you weren't in the right.

kitkat29 · 08/03/2017 14:57

Access to a dropped kerb is accessible by anyone who wants to use it.

I can't see how the neighbour can access their garden without crossing the OP's though.

His reaction was unreasonable, especially as there has never been a problem before, definitely put up a boundary wall/fence.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 14:57

No I'm just pointing out I'm not an unreasonable person. I could be an arsehole if I wanted too but I'm not.

It was a one off it's never happened before. But his reaction to me being parked there was to continuously beep

I don't think I'm the unreasonable one at all

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allchattedout · 08/03/2017 14:59

No, I am sorry, but both of you have to cross the pavement (neither of you own the pavement) to get to your own driveways. Neither of you have drives that extend to the main road. The tree is not on his land, it is on the pavement. You are not entitled to block the dropped kerb access and if you do and he takes legal action, you are likely to lose.

Seriously, stop being a dick about it. You have enough room on your own drive for 2 cars fgs and there seems to be a lot of space on the road. What if someone tried to block your entrance to your house? How would you like it?

Allthebestnamesareused · 08/03/2017 14:59

Mummysboy you are not being unreasonable. He was!

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 15:00

Without the op checking deeds etc she cannot put up a wall or anything. It is possible that he has rights to use it hence the wall was moved. He might have contributed to the works. But without the deeds etc no one can say 100% it's for sole use of the ops. She chucks a wall up and she could end in trouble legally. It is possible because of the tree access is shared.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/03/2017 15:01

OP, you started off by saying I parked on our dropped kerb and kept referring to it as yours. Point is it isn't yours. Yes he was being an arse, but you did seem to think you had the right to park there, which probably affected how you reacted.

allchattedout · 08/03/2017 15:01

Get that boundary wall put up and good luck to them trying to go up the dropped curb to get into their drive from that angle with a wall and tree there!

You reckon?? If he does have to cross OP's land, by this stage he will have acquired an easement by prescription as it would have been in use for 20 or more years (that tree does not look newly planted). That is an enforceable right and cannot be interfered with.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:01

Op

Does the dropped kerb go as far as the tree?

Who paid for the original dropped kerb?

Was there originally a wall between the two houses?

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/03/2017 15:02

And it looks to me like he has plenty of room to get on to his drive without going across the OP's drive.

PoisonousSmurf · 08/03/2017 15:02

That looks like a shared dropped kerb. So YANBU about his 'beeping' but YABU about the access. Not worth winding up next door, they sound 'delightful'.

LowDudgeon · 08/03/2017 15:02

So many people posting on here haven't even read the OP properly, let alone TWFT

Photos are of the position today, not yesterday. OP couldn't pull forward yesterday because there was another car there then.

Neighbour was definitely being unreasonable not to either park on the road himself or wait patiently a few minutes. & neighbour's partner's friend IBU today by blocking OP in when there is space behind blue Audi to pull into neighbour's drive.

SolomanDaisy · 08/03/2017 15:02

If I've u understood this right, you parked blocking the pavement? Which is a bit twatty as you're forcing people with prams onto the road.

PunjanaTea · 08/03/2017 15:02

Just because you do something unreasonable once doesn't make you an unreasonable person in all aspects of life.

Although, I'm not sure how you can't see that you weren't in the right in this situation. You blocked his access to his drive and acted like you didn't give a shit, sure he shouldn't have beeped continuously, but you also shouldn't have parked there in the first place.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 15:03

I honestly wouldn't mind waiting a few minutes for a neighbour to get her kids out the car so I could park.

What kind of person would have a problem with this Confused

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Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 15:03

Or what bloodyteenagers said.

The op can't just stick a wall up if there's an agreement re access. And she doesn't seem to know.

Before you do anything more op, you should be checking your deeds. And not blocking the footpath or dropped kerb. Because you don't own them.