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I never met someone from NM to discuss MN. Honest. Trump thread cont

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amispartacus · 02/03/2017 17:26

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2864604-FAKE-news-LIES-fake-lies-We-need-the-Trump-Oracle?msgid=67323987

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amispartacus · 05/03/2017 09:12

Someone else in the US shot and told 'to get back to your own country'

www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/sikh-man-shot-170305052756400.html

www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/kent-shooting-victim-says-he-was-told-go-back-to-your-own-country/

The victim was a Sikh man.

Singh said Puget Sound-area Sikh men in particular have reported a rise in verbal abuse and uncomfortable encounters recently, “a kind of prejudice, a kind of xenophobia that is nothing that we’ve seen in the recent past.”

To Singh, the number of incidents targeting members of the religion, which has its roots in the Punjab region of South Asia, recalls the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001.

“But at that time, it felt like the [presidential] administration was actively working to allay those fears,” he said. “Now, it’s a very different dimension.”

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originalbiglymavis · 05/03/2017 09:22

I overheard a caller on a UK station banging on about 'prove what Russia is doing, all FAKE NEWS, Trump is right Bla bla bla'.

It was quite gobsmaking really. Such a thick, incoherent little man who seems to think that he now has 'a voice' and some sort of power. How do these thickoes think that they actually have 'they truth'? Because someone tells them without any evidence? No facts, proof or actual sense? It's like a weird religion.

woman12345 · 05/03/2017 09:23

Is anyone noticing that both Trump's 'supporters' are going into overdrive alongside May's ones here?

Trump is on the defensive over Russia.

May could be in more shit over corrupt election expenses, and is ramming brexit through at break neck speed, and sending out 'prepare to leave' letters to EU citizens who have lived in Britain for decades. Racist and anti semitic attacks risen since Brexit too and Jewish Brits are taking up offer of German citizenship at record levels.

Looks like it's make or break time for both to them at them moment.

Dumdedumdedum · 05/03/2017 09:25

I saw a report of that attack on a Sikh earlier, Ami, but hadn't clocked that it happened in Seattle - which is the most liberal and laid back of US cities, to my mind. Somehow that makes it so much worse, if you see what I mean?

originalbiglymavis · 05/03/2017 09:28

Seattle? Well there are some yeehaw areas there too.

I wouldn't have put money on an attack there though.

TheClaws · 05/03/2017 09:38

I've noticed a tiny shift from Fox too. They must realise they're in deep trouble. Trump fans are being weaned off them to Breitbart. Those against Trump are dug in deeper than ever against them. They risk losing their audience and power, which is probably why Murdoch's started talking about "fake news" issues.

Cussing, agree, but I think Murdoch has his limit. He isn't an idiot and he doesn't support idiots. He will retract his support from Trump if his behaviour continues so openly erratic, and he certainly will if he becomes subject to investigation, I would think.

MsHooliesCardigan · 05/03/2017 09:47

Here I am doing my bit on the NHS march yesterday (kids lurking behind me). Organisers estimated that 250,000 attended. All very peaceful and a lot of people with Trump banners.

I never met someone from NM to discuss MN. Honest. Trump thread cont
I never met someone from NM to discuss MN. Honest. Trump thread cont
woman12345 · 05/03/2017 09:49

Smile MrsHooly bigly demonstration, thanks!

Dumdedumdedum · 05/03/2017 09:52

Great stuff, thank you, MsHoolie!

TheClaws · 05/03/2017 09:56

2 Rogue POTUS Staff tweets:

Rogue POTUS Staff @RoguePOTUSStaff 7 hrs

POTUS has done more damage to self in the 48 w/ his temper than has compromising news. No POTUS can survive scandal by alienating his staff.

Rogue POTUS Staff‏ @RoguePOTUSStaff 8h8 hours ago

Today has been the biggest failure of POTUS' term so far. Worst thing is, he doesn't even understand why. He's treading on very thin ice.

TheClaws · 05/03/2017 09:58

Great work MrsHoolies! (and kids)

Dumdedumdedum · 05/03/2017 10:02

Sorry, need Tweet clarification here, please, TheClaws - does "the 48" mean in the past 48 hours or something completely different?

TheClaws · 05/03/2017 10:26

Yes, it means the past 48 hours Dumdedum (as far as I could gather).

cozietoesie · 05/03/2017 10:28

Dum

I'll defer to the US posters here but I assumed that they just meant 'the US'. ( '48' or, backaways, 'The Lower 48' is a term used to describe the coterminous US.)

cozietoesie · 05/03/2017 10:32

Ah. I have a different view to others. Smile

Still.

I'm sure we can all agree that he blew it? BIGLY. Grin

TheClaws · 05/03/2017 10:37

You could be right Cozie. I guessed from the context.

Lweji · 05/03/2017 10:39

This SNL summary made me wonder about something.
If Arne was sacked/resigned for low ratings, what should happen to a President with the lowest ever starting ratings?

Several ouch moments, not least of all to the current bumbling and ineffective Johnny American type of current DNC leadership.

Dumdedumdedum · 05/03/2017 10:40

cozie - yep, I think "the Lower 48" was at the back of my mind when I queried it!
Either way, I hope he has blown it so bigly that he is soon gone. And that Pence gets ousted for his private email server.. And that in a strange Dallas like turn, Obama returns for a third Presidential term as if we'd all been in the shower for a collective nightmare

Neverthelessshepersisted · 05/03/2017 10:55

was Melissa McCarthy on last night?
I luff her.

(also, genuine question, what is a "nudge" question?)

Lweji · 05/03/2017 11:03

No Melissa. Just Forrest Sessions. Run Sessions, run. Grin

Look for his legless best friend (I think that's what inspired the sketch).

Anyway, it's a question that is phrased in such a way that it leads the person to reply in a certain way.
Such as:
Would you rather spend more money on killing children abroad or on educating children in our country?

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/03/2017 11:28

Mail On Sunday is also carrying the story that Trump went ballistic after Sessions recusal. Apparently he told Bannon and Priebus that they were not to travel to MaraLago aboard Air Force One with him as originally planned. They said they would stay at the White House instead.

So his keepers were absent when the twitterstorm occurred.

Bannon then flew to Florida on Saturday Grin

Dumdedumdedum · 05/03/2017 11:34

Aaaah, lightbulb moment re nudge questions, thank you, Lweji!

Lweji · 05/03/2017 11:49

The recent attacks on Sikhs reminded me of this clip, from almost a year ago, about how Sikhs are not Muslim.

In there they say they don't want to throw another religion under the bus and keep telling people "I'm not Muslim", as if acknowledging that Muslims are dangerous. Which is fine and commendable. But I wonder how long they'll feel the same if they start being shot at.

Lweji · 05/03/2017 11:56

"@ungaggedEPA
Pushing #EPA duties solely to the states will not work. One state's oversight = another's disaster. Who will be accountable? Think about it."

Oh, Dump's Admin will just blame it on Obama or say it's all FAKE LIES.

twitter.com/ungaggedEPA/status/837841338066403328

Lweji · 05/03/2017 11:59

There's a "silver lining", though".

IggieDaddy replies:

@ungaggedEPA Obvious that red state trump lovers will suffer the most harm. C'est la vie.