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I never met someone from NM to discuss MN. Honest. Trump thread cont

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amispartacus · 02/03/2017 17:26

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2864604-FAKE-news-LIES-fake-lies-We-need-the-Trump-Oracle?msgid=67323987

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 04/03/2017 16:20

So.... Is the whole sorry facade starting to slip?

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 16:26

Sky News‏Verified account @SkyNews 9m9 minutes ago
Emmanuel Macron aide claims the French presidential favourite was hacked by Russia news.sky.com/story/emmanuel-macron-aide-claims-the-french-presidential-favourite-was-hacked-by-russia-10790024

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 16:28

Washington Post‏Verified account @washingtonpost 12m12 minutes ago
Review: Trump tweeted that this new immigration book is a ‘must read.’ So I read it — and you must not. wapo.st/2m5OvYn

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 16:50

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Per the WH pool, Trump "might hit a few balls" today at the course

CussingQuim · 04/03/2017 16:51

Mashable - Facebook now officially marks 'fake news' as 'disputed.

People rolling their eyes over a central organisation having the power to start labelling stuff as fake, but I feel like this can only be a good move, with auto-tags of "disputed by Snopes and Politico" etc.

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 16:52

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Bannon is working closely with Trump on combating what he calls the "deep state" in intel comm, per multiple people at WH

cozietoesie · 04/03/2017 16:54

And by now, those 'multiple people' would all be part of the incoming administration?

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:03

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Before leaving for Mar-a-Lago yesterday, Pres. Trump summoned some senior staff to the Oval Office and went "ballistic," sources tell @ABC.

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:04

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Trump was known for years to tape calls in his own offices. And during campaign, staffers fretted their offices were bugged.

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:08

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1/ The wiretaps that Donald Trump "just found out" about have been reported for weeks. I'm going to summarize here some of the discussion.

2/ @LouiseMensch broke the news for @heatstreet that a FISA warrant was granted to explore Donald's Russia Ties heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/ … pic.twitter.com/ixedz3TuTx

3/ The @guardian's @julianborger reported on the FISA warrant again when the Steele dossier news broke in January www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts … pic.twitter.com/CX0PAGTDs7
4/ Republicans who have defended surveillance powers are now critical of it especially following Flynn's resignation theintercept.com/2017/02/15/after-michael-flynns-resignation-surveillance-defenders-suddenly-care-about-wiretap-abuse/ … pic.twitter.com/PgYLhfj1bQ

5/ And just this week Donald's administration announced it had no intention of curtailing FISA www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-fisa-idUSKBN16855P … pic.twitter.com/jXGbWoUqJ2

6/ When @LouiseMensch reported on the FISA tap, she included details that implicated Putin's own daughters, Carter Page and Paul Manafort. pic.twitter.com/TgeO9x1NvC

7/ This week @SenCoonsOffice suggested the transcripts that the FBI has may prove collusion with Russia. www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/sen-coons-attorney-general-sessions-lied-to-the-senate-889587267708

8/ Coons has been one of the staunchest critics of surveillance powers, having introduced bills to reign in FISA

9/ Back to Donald. Wiretapping him was not illegal, full stop. And it suggests the court had reason to permit it. twitter.com/20committee/status/838001204206649344

10/ Donald's tweets this morning are a helpful reminder that he was under investigation, possibly for espionage. twitter.com/davidfrum/status/837999403436736513

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 04/03/2017 17:22

Thanks for posting those tweets from Justin Hendrix in the correct order, Ginger. You are a Star

amispartacus · 04/03/2017 17:26

From the NY Time

Mr. Trump’s aides declined to clarify whether the president’s explosive allegations were based on briefings from intelligence or law enforcement officials or on something else, like a news report. Grin

A spokesman for Mr. Obama did not immediately respond to a request for comment, though officials from his administration called Mr. Trump’s accusation shocking and untrue. They pointed to longstanding laws and procedures intended to ensure that presidents cannot wiretap a rival for political purposes

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GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:27

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Ethics office clears Trump's pick for Securities and Exchange Commission: report hill.cm/HmrRF64

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:29

Mort haha I had to go back and check - I thought "oh man!! I put them in the wrong order, I'll bet!!" Grin

Lweji · 04/03/2017 17:29

So, has someone taped those phone calls to Putin that Donald had decided not to record officially, unlike other calls?
Good.

amispartacus · 04/03/2017 17:34

More on NY Times

It would have been difficult for federal agents, working within the law, to obtain a wiretap order to target Mr. Trump’s phone conversations. It would have meant that the Justice Department had gathered sufficient evidence to persuade a federal judge that there was probable cause to believe he had committed a serious crime or was an agent of a foreign power, depending on whether it was a criminal investigation or a foreign intelligence one.

In one message, which Mr. Trump sent from his Palm Beach, Fla., resort at 6:35 a.m., the president said he had “just found out” that his phones had been tapped before the election. Speculation online quickly turned to the possibility that Mr. Trump had been reading an article on the Breitbart News site or listening to the conservative radio host Mark Levin; both have embraced the theory in recent days.

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GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:35

DianeKovacs‏ @DianeKovacs 19m19 minutes ago
Trump pleads for cash at closed donor retreat politi.co/2mo4PXm

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:36

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The gun lobby may have its man in Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch | Opinion bit.ly/2mQx7H9

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:45

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UN report shows North Korea using Africa to slip sanctions, with few repercussions abcn.ws/2lI2GkQ

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:50

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Asylum-seekers were held without clear reason in a Pennsylvania facility, advocates say cbsn.ws/2mpRRrW

GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 17:56

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BREAKING: Neither Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen: Obama spokesman

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/03/2017 17:58

David Grossman‏ @davidgross_man
Imagine if u honestly uncovered a Watergate-level scandal abt yr own presidency, but then 30 min later got bored & started tweeting about TV

amispartacus · 04/03/2017 17:58

BREAKING: Neither Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen: Obama spokesman

Well, someone's lying......Or is being less than honest with the truth.

Maybe Michelle did it?

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 04/03/2017 17:59

Arnie's response.

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GingerIvy · 04/03/2017 18:00

BBC Breaking News‏Verified account @BBCBreaking 1m1 minute ago
Barack Obama spokesman says President Trump's claims of wire tapping are 'simply false' bbc.in/2m8sF8t