To think DD's punishment from PE teacher was draconian?

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DD is in Year 10 and came home quite annoyed about a punishment she got in PE for something very minor in the first place. Her teacher made her get changed into her PE kit at lunchtime (without any tracksuit in the cold wet weather), and run laps around the football pitch for all but the last 15 minutes of the break (so she could eat), much of it whilst the boys were having football practice, who apparently found it quite funny. Is it overreacting to think this is a bit out of order? I might not have been surprised when I was at school but I can't help be a bit annoyed, seems a bit like it was intended to embarrass her and unnecessary.

If my kids had come home bleating about this, they'd have been told they should have kept their mouths shut in the lesson then they wouldn't have had to run.

I'd be more concerned about her having only 15 minutes to change and eat lunch then get to class on time!

And running around in front of boys of all things !

Yes it's completely the PE teacher's fault for making the DD do the physical exercise she missed by disrupting the class, the teacher really needs to be "educated".

Thanks notgettingyounger that's very helpful.

Somerville the boys were having a kick around whilst their coach was doing drills with other members of their team, laughing and joking about her. Not sure how you can't understand a teenage girl could find that embarrassing in the context of her stage of life. Being at an athletics club is different as presumably all the kids are there for the purpose of playing athletics doing similar things.

But the boys were playing football - it's hardly a baying crowd is it?

Your DD was made to exercise in appropriate clothing in an appropriate location as punishment for being disrespectful and wasting time.

Sounds reasonable to me.
She will know not to ignore instructions and cause disruption now.
And as for this little gem.....
Why didn't she tell the teacher to not so politely get lost. My PE teacher was the same and tried to hand out similar punishments but I always told her where to go, then got my mum to back me up
........You and your like are one of the reasons the teaching profession is in crisis.

Extra work or repeating unsatisfactory work until it meets the required standard.

That's what she had to do - extra PE. There was no breaking of stones or unraveling sailors' rope - it isn't a 19th century prison.

FrancisCrawford she didn't want to tell me in full and I haven't pushed her to, buit they were along the lines of her needing a better sports bra and on the subject of her legs.

Good schools will have a range of disciplinary
measures clearly communicated to school staff, pupils and parents. These can include:
• Extra work or repeating unsatisfactory work until it meets the required standard.

Which is what was done - it was a PE lesson so the extra work was PE

It's a bit of a 1970s punishment.

The boys should have been more firmly controlled - I really cant imagine a teacher running a coaching session would allow the boys to stop and loiter around staring ar her or shouting lude comments her way.

If the boys were really commenting on her breasts and her legs than they should be reported and should be the ones losing their lunch break to be punished tomorrow.

But that doesn't mean that the punishment your daughter received wasn't fair.

It wasn't the teacher's fault that your daughter heard them, just as it wouldn't have been your daughters fault if she heard them if she'd chosen to spend her lunch break running laps.

The fact your daughter found it embarrassing due to the boys comments is separate to whether the teacher acted reasonably in instructing her to run laps at a lunchtime sports practice under supervision due to her disrupting the earlier PE lesson repeatedly.

Are you seriously going to contact the school and effectively say your dayghter running under a teacher's supervision alongside boys isn't appropriate?

NapQueen, the teacher was doing drills with different members of the team, across a whole pitch, so some of them were able to kick around and get on with it while he did. I already asked why a teacher didn't intervene.

Somerville "if the boys were really commenting" doesn't sit too well with me, I don't really want to discuss with you insinuating she's making things up. How unpleasant. I suppose she and friends who have had comments from men in the street already are making it up too.

Report the boys for sexist comments and buy her a better sports bra.

NEXT

Did the teacher just take her along to what he was doing (supervising the football) and get her to run round as a way of occupying her/keeping her warm? Dd had a detention (unsigned planner) where her and the others just went along to the teacher's department and sat in a room while the teacher was preparing for the next lesson (or whatever she needed to do) nearby.

I would be saying the boys need to be supervised as they are clearly ferel I think the punishment was fine sounds like they are at the end of there tether with her lip and are cracking down on it

I don't really want to discuss the quality of my daughter's sports bra, what odd comments

she was given the initial punishment and made to sit in silence, then told after the lesson she would have to do laps as she hadn't done the required PE the school would expect her to have done for the week.

So she was punished in the lesson and given a detention appropriate to the subject to make up what she missed because her behaviour caused her to be removed from the session ... unfortunately for her the only available space/time for her to complete that punishment was on the field that also happened to be being used for football training.

She was not intentionally humiliated in front of boys - she was made to complete a detention where other students could see her, in this case it was a football squad, it could just have easily have been a netball squad or a gym team if the only available space at the time was the netball courts/gym.

If she felt humiliated or that the boys were making inappropriate comments then that is a seperate issue and she should have taken that up with a teacher - whether it was the gym teacher, football coach, her form tutor or a member of the pastoral care team.

OP..... you clearly don't think YABU. You seem to know awful lot of detail about the incident despite not being there. Perhaps time to remember you are only hearing one side of the story. If it's bugging you this much then speak to the teacher to get her side of things.

I think we are becoming far too precious about our kids today. They have to be saved from any kind of upset even if they deserve it.
God knows how some of them will cope with adult life.

Absolutely.

What do people not understand??

Teachers are not allowed to use physical exercise as a punishment, regardless of what OP's DD did!

Punish DD by all means, but do it appropriately and correctly!

Why did you ask if you were being unreasonable when you clearly think you aren't?