To think DD's punishment from PE teacher was draconian?

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DD is in Year 10 and came home quite annoyed about a punishment she got in PE for something very minor in the first place. Her teacher made her get changed into her PE kit at lunchtime (without any tracksuit in the cold wet weather), and run laps around the football pitch for all but the last 15 minutes of the break (so she could eat), much of it whilst the boys were having football practice, who apparently found it quite funny. Is it overreacting to think this is a bit out of order? I might not have been surprised when I was at school but I can't help be a bit annoyed, seems a bit like it was intended to embarrass her and unnecessary.

Can't diss the teachers on MN.Saints every one of 'em.

crystallgal I don't think it's terrible she had to sit on her own at the side. Being told to do that, fair enough, having to sit cross-legged on her own by the side embarrassing, yes, but so be it, and so she should have been made to sit in silence having talked. I just said I can understand why she found it uncomfortable and then embarrassing to be told again in presumably stern terms to cross her legs again, which is a bit uncomfortable. I don't think it's terrible but I understand it was embarrassing.

Why's that then,Jess.Am I too gobby?

she was called to account over her bad behaviour.

This is very clear to me.

Your DD has managed to shift the focus from her bad behaviour on to the difficulties of sitting on the floor

Shes good I'll give her that as you have ran with it.

I don't know. When I was at school, PE was PE. Whenever it was. If you had your kit, it was in kit. If you didn't, bra and knickers it was
Whoever was watching, up until age 16/17

This thread is bizarre, one minute it's about being made to run in the cold in a PE kit, then it's discussing alleged sexual comments by teenage boys, brief discussion of the word 'lippy', quickly moving on to a quick discussion about sports bras and now it's about how 'painful' it is to sit cross legged for an undisclosed period of time! If you are truly worried by this, PHONE THE SCHOOL!

Lippy, onhold, lippy. Big difference. Allegedly.

No, I didn't say she needs a distraction to sit still (she obviously sits still and concentrates in most of her lessons), just that having to keep her legs crossed sitting on a hard floor for a lesson isn't necessarily comfortable, especially being the only one doing it, and that stopping the lesson again to tell her to adopt a certain position was embarrassing for her. She deserved to have to sit out the lesson, but that doesn't mean she has a chip on her shoulder for finding something embarrassing.

@Jess

Careful you will be offered a scrap round the bike sheds next

When I was at school, if a girl had to do PE in her knickers for having no kit and she got comments from the lads, it was her fault for forgetting her kit. But then the lads would get the same from the girls if they had to do it in their pants if they forgot their kit

Does she have ants in her pants? It was embarrassing because she was the only one who had to do it because she embarrassed herself. Tell her if she'd shut up, kept her legs crossed and not made herself the centre of attention again she'd not have been told how to sit again (like a little kid as she was acting like one) and likely not have to do laps

She was probably told to sit cross legged because the others were running about in a PE lesson and the teacher didn't want someone tripping over her legs.

Exactly the same happens in school halls and gyms the world over.

You are having us on aren't you Pseudo about girls doing PE in bra and pants until age 16 in front of boys?

This is the same punishment that my boys get when one person is pissing about in PE, whether by talking when he's talking or generally being silly. The whole class get the punishment for one person (not my DCs, yet). I have no issue with it at all. Children need to learn to behave appropriately in their environment.

I think you have two options, either you tell dd to behave and suck it up or you complain to school that you did not agree with their punishment methods and risk dd thinking she has got one over the teacher.

Dc1 who has sn forgot to attend a whole class detention which was given as some children in class where being disruptive, dd definitely was not and this was confirmed. She forgot to attend the whole class detention as she has organisation issues as part of her sen. She remembered and apologised to the teacher as soon as she remembered.

I half expected the teacher to not follow up with punishment for dd given it was confirmed she had not been causing disruption in the first place however the teacher gave her detention on her own for the whole of the lunch period giving her no time at all to eat.

In effect she was given detention for having poor organisation skills as a result of sen for missing a whole class detention where she had not misbehaved.

She was pissed off, I was pissed off but she just had to suck it up.

You sound like one of Those Parents.

PuffinDodger Think I was about 14 when I had to do it in my bra and pants when I had no PE kit for a PE detention. Although it was about 15 years ago now.

Puffindodger and no way would we have been made to do laps outside like that - if we had no kit we wore jumpers or blouses rather than just bras!

I think it is a perfectly appropriate punishment tbh. I would imagine that she will think more than twice about being disruptive and disrespectful in class with this teacher again. By the sounds of what you said your daughter has 'form' as otherwise she wouldn't have had issues with this teacher before. The whole point of a punishment is to have the desired effect, in this instance stop your daughter being a smart arse in class and provided that you back the teacher up and tell her that if she hadn't been being cheeky or disruptive or whatever she wouldn't have been embarrassed by being made to run round the field and not to do it again. If you commiserate with her and tell her it was wrong then she will have learned nothing.

I have told her off for her disruptive behaviour in PE, told her off for how she got into the situation and told her she was being rude in what she said and talking back. I just thought the punishment was a bit much and handled badly in all, but no, I won't be saying anything to the school, it would go against what we try to teach her at home and undermine the school even if I feel it was unfair in ways in this instance.

I think PE teachers can be particularly sadistic. Any item of missing kit just do it without that piece of kit, as it was when I was at school. Don't think they can still get away with that these days, though!

Ha ha. I would have laughed in his face if anyone tried to make me do that. Especially when I'd already been punished.

OP, ring the school and find out exactly what happened. Then explain that physical punishment is not appropriate and ties into people ,especially girls, not enjoying PE and the school should be ashamed of themselves for enabling such.

If teachers are leaving the profession because they can't handle disciplining without using physical punishment , then good riddance.

Honestly, I wish someone had tried it