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To think DD's punishment from PE teacher was draconian?

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moonlightshadow1 · 01/03/2017 17:15

DD is in Year 10 and came home quite annoyed about a punishment she got in PE for something very minor in the first place. Her teacher made her get changed into her PE kit at lunchtime (without any tracksuit in the cold wet weather), and run laps around the football pitch for all but the last 15 minutes of the break (so she could eat), much of it whilst the boys were having football practice, who apparently found it quite funny. Is it overreacting to think this is a bit out of order? I might not have been surprised when I was at school but I can't help be a bit annoyed, seems a bit like it was intended to embarrass her and unnecessary.

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SookiesSocks · 01/03/2017 23:08

Maybe because she is mortified by her DDs behaviour?

Grin
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moonlightshadow1 · 01/03/2017 23:09

FrancisCrawford to her I've not said any aspect of her punishment was wrong because I think it's important to back up the school (unless they do something really out of order). She needs to learn not to talk back/talk when the teacher tells her/the class not to. I definitely don't want her to repeat it, no, I just can see where she's coming from being embarrassed and don't think it means she has a chip on her shoulder.

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Youcantstandme · 01/03/2017 23:11

It's funny this girl thinks it's so terrible to be told to sit cross legged then even worse to be told to again thanks to herself not being able to do something so basic as sit as she was told but answering back to the teacher meaning she had to do it in the first place doesn't register to her as wrong Hmm

eddiemairswife · 01/03/2017 23:12

why couldn't she keep her legs crossed? Millions of us have had to sit with legs crossed at school assemblies, plays, listening to visiting speakers. At my school only the 6th form sat on chairs, but that was in the Dark Ages, when if you got into trouble at school you didn't go running to Mummy about it.

Gildedcage · 01/03/2017 23:13

OP I wouldn't complain, simply because it going to be your DD who has to deal with said teacher who may make life horrible. I'd simply talk to her about chalking this down to experience. Yeah don't talk in his/her lesson, but also life is full of people who may need to be managed, may be bullies, maybe totally unreasonable etc. It's a lesson in life. And tomorrow's another day, a clean slate, yeah today may have been cap but tomorrow still has the capacity to be great. It's hard being 14, and I'm not a teacher but the best ones that I had didn't need to resort to punishments like this...

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moonlightshadow1 · 01/03/2017 23:15

eddiemairswife and youcantstandme, having to keep her legs crossed for a fair amount of time wasn't comfortable, so she wanted to stretch her legs and fidget a bit as I expect sitting totally still on the wooden floor might make your bum a bit uncomfortable, I can see why she felt it a bit much for the teacher to stop the lesson to tell her off about it even if I told her I agreed with the teacher.

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OnHold · 01/03/2017 23:15

More and more will pile in now just to stick the boot in,OP.Hide the thread.

And they talk about your DDs bad behaviour...

SookiesSocks · 01/03/2017 23:16

Are you the OPs minder OnHold?

You appear to be dishing it out but not managing to take it. Your not the gobby DD are you Wink

OnHold · 01/03/2017 23:18

Are you 14,Skokie? You sound like you want a fight behind the bikesheds.

OnHold · 01/03/2017 23:19

Sookie. Stupid phone.

TSSDNCOP · 01/03/2017 23:19

Will she behave in this teachers class in future?

Do you think that her version of events and the teachers will reconcile, or would it be reasonable to suggest that the scope of the punishment was in fact in line with her behaviour?

She played up enough to be benched during the class so others could participate without further interruption. I don't think that part was the punishment.

The punishment was the sacrifice of her time, doing an activity within the teachers field.

The uniform chosen was standard cross country kit. It's common to run around the outside of pitches, so I can see why that's the place that was chosen. She'd have probably been jeered at by girls too if the pitch was being used for hockey.

Up to this point I think YABU in your compliant.

If you are suggesting the boys made sexually explicit remarks that is a whole different issue to take up with the school, and has bearing on the teachers choice of punishment.

FrancisCrawford · 01/03/2017 23:20

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Atthebottomofthegarden · 01/03/2017 23:21

I would not be happy if my DD was punished like this, regardless of how well deserved. It's bullying, pure and simple, and whilst it was not unusual 30 years ago when I was a teenager, times have moved on and it is not acceptable now. It is the attempts to humiliate her which I would find particularly offensive - girls so often suffer from low self esteem, and this will make it worse.

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moonlightshadow1 · 01/03/2017 23:23

She behaved badly and was rightly pulled up on that. I said I can understand why she would find being told to sit by the side on her own, then told again to sit in a way the teacher decided in front of everyone, embarrassing, even if it was in the first place due to her behaviour, and doesn't make her have a chip on her shoulder.

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FrancisCrawford · 01/03/2017 23:23

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SookiesSocks · 01/03/2017 23:23

Are you 14,Skokie? You sound like you want a fight behind the bikesheds.

Erm you do realise this comment makes you look ridiculous dont you?

You started on me first OnHold after my very first comnent so it appears you are the one who wants a fight behind the bike sheds Grin

eddiemairswife · 01/03/2017 23:23

As I said before we used to sit cross-legged at school, rows and rows of girls with no room to stretch legs, and no-one complained about being uncomfortable. I suspect your 'lippy' daughter was being thoroughly uncooperative.

TSSDNCOP · 01/03/2017 23:25

No bearing on the teachers choice of punishment

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 01/03/2017 23:26

Are you going to phone the school?

crystalgall · 01/03/2017 23:27

Another teacher here.

I'm not going to pile in on OP though I can't see the big deal about the punishment.

I am just ConfusedConfused at this bizarre back and forth about what happened in the classroom.

OMG she had to sit at the side. Omg she had to cross her legs. Omg soooo embarrassing to be put on the side away from everyone. They could seeeeee me.

Er...what??

What the hell do you expect a teacher to do with a misbehaving child? Give them a cuddle?

Why is your daughter and you whining about having to sit on the side? I know you keep saying you were ok with it but the words and tone of your posts suggest otherwise. You understand where your daughter's coming from. Why?

Do you have any idea what it's like when kids are lippy in class/talk over you/ignore instructions/ do whatever the hell the like?

And then they have the nerve to be affronted by the consequences.

I have had kids come and sit at my desk to work. Embarrassing!! So what?

I have sent kids out. I have had to call emergency support which is where someone comes to remove a child in front of everyone. Gasp!

I have moved a child to a table sat on their own and made them work by themselves. Is that sadistic?

She had to sit one her own at the side in silence and cross her legs. So flipping what? And when she complained to you, even though you didn't say it your tone here suggests you think her complaints were justified.

Ooh it's so hard for my poor baby to cross her legs for half an hour. Puh-leeeze as my kids would say.

Running outside. They wouldn't do it at my
School but if it was my kids I would tell her to shut up and behave in class. The end.

The sexual harassment you believe happened should be addressed separately.

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moonlightshadow1 · 01/03/2017 23:30

Maybe she would have been able to sit still with a distraction but having to sit with her legs crossed, on a hard floor, for the majority of a lesson with nothing to concentrate on, you can see why her legs would get tired. I don't see how it's being "thoroughly uncooperative" to uncross her legs for a small time.

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ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 01/03/2017 23:30

I'm going to make onhold sit cross legged in a minute.... Grin

FrancisCrawford · 01/03/2017 23:31

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Youcantstandme · 01/03/2017 23:32

Why should the teacher have ignored her uncrossing her legs? The teacher told her to sit cross legged. She decided not to. The teacher should have let her off disobeying a simple instruction in front of the class?

SookiesSocks · 01/03/2017 23:32

I'm going to make onhold sit cross legged in a minute.... grin

I'm gonna tell Miss on her. Wink