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You say tchoritso...

354 replies

BrillianaHarvey · 26/02/2017 23:02

...and I say khoritho. Because it's RIGHT. That's how ACTUAL SPANISH PEOPLE say it because it COMES FROM SPAIN.
So why do you look pityingly at me as though I'm some kind of illiterate imbecile, and get me to repeat it, several times, before you say, triumphantly, 'Oh, tchoritso!' like you've just cracked the fucking Enigma Code?
And it crosses my mind, fleetingly, that perhaps my life would have been easier if sometimes I'd chosen to be wrong instead of weird.

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Yokohamajojo · 27/02/2017 11:27

I am swedish and it annoys me when people try to pronounce IKEA in a authentic swedish way a'la the adverts. For me IKEA in the UK is AYKEA. It's not strange that foreign words/names get anglicised is it?

I would like to know the proper pronunciation of Gouda cheese?

twothree · 27/02/2017 11:28

DizzyTongue I'm also in Ireland. DH says Pew-Joe for Peugeot, as does an ad on the radio for our local dealer. I always wonder if Peugeot HQ are aware. Is it declared acceptable regional pronunciation? (I hope not!)

Also, where we live it's common to hear Saw-veen-yonn Blonk/Blank (Sauvignon Blanc) and, I kid you not, satchet (sachet)

flipflap75 · 27/02/2017 11:29

Was just thinking about 'Majorca'. As other PPs have said, non-Anglicised pronunciations gradually get absorbed and become the norm. I haven't heard 'Madge-yorca' for years.

So we'll probably all be saying 'choreetho' (or whatever the BBC newsreaders decide on) in five years.

TheOnlyLivingBoyinNewCork · 27/02/2017 11:33

I have to order Hoegarden the wrong way or I get corrected every single time in a bar. Despite this mass wrongness, it is Hooo-gaarden, not Ho-garden!

I let them away with Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier though Grin

TheOnlyLivingBoyinNewCork · 27/02/2017 11:36

I would like to know the proper pronunciation of Gouda cheese?

You wouldn't say it the proper Dutch way if you are speaking English, it would sound weird, but its like sort of like hoow-dah, but with guttaral dutch g/h sound at the start. Really hard to describe.

Yokohamajojo · 27/02/2017 11:54

Thanks TheOnly I can sort of hear it but sure won't try it Smile

MegaBlocksBaby · 27/02/2017 12:51

twotthree it's pew-joe (soft j though) round here and also saw-veen-yong blonk. What are the proper pronunciations? Blush

MyKidsHaveTakenMySanity · 27/02/2017 13:09

It's always been "th" sound to me too as I learned its name in Spain. From the Spanish! I get funny looks when I say it right!

Mind you, I can handle that. Its my inlaws who make me cringe when they say,
Fa-Gee-tas for fajitas.
Jal-a-pee-nose for jalapeños (yes, that's a J sound instead of a H sound)
Mataland instead of Matalan and Car Booty sale instead of car boot sale.
Maybe it's because it's them that it bugs me more than other people's mispronunciations?

MadMags · 27/02/2017 13:27

Jalapeño is a j sound??

quarkinstockcubes · 27/02/2017 13:32

I was on a plane once and got chatting with the guy next to me who was from Korea. We were talking about cars and I said I had a Hyundai (hi-on-dai) He didn't know what I was talking about and then it clicked, but said it is pronounced Chundai!

Ontopofthesunset · 27/02/2017 13:33

My uncle used to say Pew-zho 30 years ago. But I guess that's a valid English pronunciation. When I was growing up everyone called Porsche Porsh, without pronouncing the final syllable, and Nestlé was called Nestles - as in Nestles Condensed Milk. We've kind of un-Anglicized those brands now.

For something like Gouda, I would use the Dutch vowel but the English hard g as we just don't have that sound in English. But I pronounce Edam according to English rules, not Dutch!

andontothenext · 27/02/2017 14:00

I'm with boomerAnge

I speak Spanish and it's Chor-eeeee-tho

MaddieElla · 27/02/2017 14:42

I pronounce quinoa as it's spelled and not keeeeenwaaa because the right way is just wanky.

MadMags · 27/02/2017 15:11

So you say quin-o-a??

That's weirder to me than keenwa! Grin

SaudadeObama · 27/02/2017 15:54

I say quin-o-a phonetically, so the o roles with the a and sounds subtle. Sounds a bit like kinwa.

Eolian · 27/02/2017 16:16

It's not really wanky. It's just how it's pronounced. And it's not as if keenwa is hard for an English speaker to say. It's pretty normal for 'qui' (as in quinoa)to be pronounced as 'kee' in lots of languages.

originalbiglymavis · 27/02/2017 16:31

But nobody used to say it when it first appeared on the shelves in the UK.

So obviously it's kinoah. Keen-maahhh sounds very odd indeed.

I can't say physils properly.

GallivantingWildebeest · 27/02/2017 16:33

The lady on OED pronounces it 'choreezo' Hmm

RhodaBorrocks · 27/02/2017 18:55

I hate it when waiters correct me with the incorrect versions. They're awful at bruschetta.

My DM once knew someone who did this. DM would order broo-sketta and the other person would pointedly say "Yes, I'll have the brush-etta too." Italian waiter then said "2 broosketta."

I once ordered a Bourbon (berben) Sour cocktail in Frankie and Benny's only for the waitress to say "Do you mean a borbon (pronounced like the biscuit) sour?" I said yes but the drink was pronounced berben. When she brought the drink over she said "Here's your borbon!" Very sarcastically. Blush

Gwenhwyfar · 27/02/2017 19:20

"it is Hooo-gaarden, not Ho-garden! "

Well it's hoo-charden with the 'ch' of loch so...

Astoria7974 · 27/02/2017 19:20

Depends where you buy it from. South of Mexico they call you stupid if you pronounce z as th

kel1234 · 27/02/2017 19:21

I agree. I studied Spanish at school and it drives me mad hearing it pronounced wrong

Gwenhwyfar · 27/02/2017 19:24

"No one says que sera with a French pronunciation. "

But que sera from the song isn't French!!!

Dumdedumdedum · 27/02/2017 19:28

What's this about a w in croissant? It's pronounced croissant. If you must have a w, make sure the r before it is pronounced.

Gwenhwyfar · 27/02/2017 19:29

"But can you pronounce Llanelli???"

Of course. Smile