You say tchoritso...

[BrillianaHarvey]

...and I say khoritho. Because it's RIGHT. That's how ACTUAL SPANISH PEOPLE say it because it COMES FROM SPAIN.
So why do you look pityingly at me as though I'm some kind of illiterate imbecile, and get me to repeat it, several times, before you say, triumphantly, 'Oh, tchoritso!' like you've just cracked the fucking Enigma Code?
And it crosses my mind, fleetingly, that perhaps my life would have been easier if sometimes I'd chosen to be wrong instead of weird.

"This is how the official language is referred to."
Yes. In Spanish. (Although the native Spanish speakers I know, none of whom are from Spain, would say Español) In English, Castilian means something else.

But that is how it is translated into English. I'm talking about its formal and legal reference in the EU, particularly.

Castellano means all Spanish dialects,

It doesn't.
It means the specific official language that is spoken in Spain, which originated from Castilla. There are others, with other names.
Foreigners say "Spanish"; in Spain it is Castellano, because there are other official languages in different regions. Gallego, catalan, etc.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Spain

The problem is that it's one word with two meanings. The translation from Spanish means one thing (Spanish), but the common English usage means something else (a specific Spanish dialect).

It IS a Spanish dialect, that is used as the official language for the whole country.
It doesn't have two meanings.

That is why some regions have co-official languages. Because they don't recognise Castilian or Castellano as more important than theirs. Anyone from Barcelona will tell you that.

Not read the full thread, but yes to choritho and kwasson, always feel a bit poncy sayin pan o chocolaah though. Oh and have a DP who says restauwaon which always makes me smile

...and I say khoritho. Because it's RIGHT. That's how ACTUAL SPANISH PEOPLE say it because it COMES FROM SPAIN.

I'm currently on a really quite dull on-call night but it's totally just been made by reading someone be so vehement that they are right and everyone else is wrong/inferior and yet be so utterly wrong The folk who are looking at you funny probably can probably actually speak Spanish.

I speak fluent Spanish - A at A level, kept up university-level classes through my veterinary degree and have worked/volunteered in Spain and various Latin American countries for periods of between 2 and 12 months since qualifying so I'm afraid I do pronounce chorizo the correct/'wanky' way because I can't pronounce it any other way. I would have to make a conscious effort to say it wrong which would just be weird.

Yeah, I may have been trying to simplify it a bit too far.

Also, the correct pronunciation for "croissant" can't be "kwasson". The French mark well their Rs. And the ending is not quite "on". It should be "crroissun".

I say choriço, cos it's also Portuguese

You should say chouriço, instead, then.

I get sweaty palms when folk ask me where I went at Christmas & I admit my estimation of their IQ dictates my response as being either Fwerta ventura or Fort a ventura; I feel like a t**t whichever way I say it and wish I'd gone to Ibiza instead In Barça I proudly spouted Pi yay a but I would be laughed out of town if I asked in my local B&M did they sell anything but poy ella (norfolk =poy /Queens English = pie or even pey
This from one who divorced a man on the grounds of gross mispronunciation of the following : Cabree O lay (cabriolet) shar Donnay & Bay once ay (Beyoncé)
I also knew it was keen wah before anyone else in Norfolk #smugasfuck

I like it when the chorizo noun nazis identify themselves early on at social gatherings as it saves me wasting any further time talking to them.

I can't waste my life worrying about how to say foreign words. Living abroad means I spend most of my time re-prouncing English words like Facebook and Youtube so that people can understand what I'm talking about. I recently told my son's nursery teacher that he would be doing Peter Pan for his book show and tell. She had no idea what book that was, despite having three copies in the book box behind her. So I rephrased it Purtur Paa. Oh Purtur Paa she said, great book. You can either communicate or be a self-righteous ponce!

FIL says tchoritsio

The ending of croissant is not quite ong but I think it's closer to that for most English people than un (which would lead to a 'hun' ending). But the vowel of course can't really be replicated.

Haha SaudadeObama my husband is French and when we took the kids to Disney in Paris the Petta Poh ride was the funniest, for many reasons.

Idiot

Barthelonah

My mum pronounces Chorizo - Choo-zoro not even close but I don't correct her.

Some parts of Spain (as well as all of Hispanic America) pronounce the "ceta" as a hard "s", not "th".

The "th" pronunciation was initially an affectation that still sounds silly to many Spanish speakers.

Try not to feel all superior about it.

SeeMyVest it sounds even better in a French accent!

WhiskyIrnBru for your mum

Estimation of IQ? Do you mean intelligence? Surely not?

an idiot's guide to fricatives including links to the ceceo/seseo phenomenal.

Chozorro is brilliant. I have a degree in Spanish, and did many many modules of Hispanic (and Catalan) linguistics but I'm going to start pronouncing it like that.

Khoritho? No.

Phenomenon. My English is shite.

Not read the full thread, but yes to choritho and kwasson, always feel a bit poncy sayin pan o chocolaah though.

How else would someone pronounce it? Payne ow chocolate? That would make the person sound more of a nob, not less. And a bit stupid. Like Del Boy or something.