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Julian Lewis seems to make a reasonable point - right up until you then hit trump as being the person he thinks can be persuaded of any argument or policy desired by the UK parliament via a state visit.

Oh this should be good

Salmond is talking about fawning subservience

Thanks SanFran, it did look rather short. :)

BTW, Paul Nuttall should go on a training course to the White House. He cried when he apologised for his lies. Never apologise. Never ever cry. Just present it as an alternative fact.

And here it comes - salmond own toadying to trump.

SNP bingo card from salmond - how much can he squeeze into his 5 mins?

Is it OK to have a wee bit of a crush on Alex Salmond?

Yes, yes it is. He is a loathesome toad.

He's in his element - his knowledge & experience re trump is actually very 'on point'.

The 'bromance', plectrum?

Putin getting mentioned now.

I'm quite liking James Cartlidge. He wears that suit well. What he's saying is an interesting point too...

I think Cartlidge is missing the point that a State Visit to someone like Trump or Putin will be taken by them as tacit approval of their conduct. It won't 'influence them' as far as foreign policy goes.

AcrossthePond
not really no, he is known in Scotland to be a toad of the highest order.
corrupt, misogynistic, and bigoted (both religious and racial).
he'd sell his Granny for a bit of airtime.
but, you go for it, girl... I find Boris fanciable, to my utter shame, so there is no sense in it, sadly

Yup cosie - salmond was so far in his pocket when it looked like ££££ would come to Scotland he was exactly the same as May has been with her indecent haste to visit him & invite him for a state visit. He's loathsome but has the knowledge and experience of him to have something of substance to say on this issue.

Ha! pinboard. I guess it's like meeting a guy in a bar, you just really don't know about them based on that one meeting.

He was speaking a lot of sense abut Trump.

Sorry cozie

Stephen Doughty is good too.

Anyone reading my posts will easily figure out my political leanings

It seems to me that the antipathy towards Trump is absolutely NOT divided along party lines in this debate. Am I correct?

Are there protests going on outside visible to where this meeting is being held?

Wow pinboard! Don't hold back in your praise of Alex Salmond

I assume you are no fan of the SNP (fair enough), but Salmond is a fine politician and he had Trump's card well and truly marked before the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/alex-salmond-donald-trump-lacks-temperament-to-be-us-presidentukk_575dae5be4b014b4f253cf59

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/21/donald-trumps-irate-letters-alex-salmond-revealed/

I might have a wee crush on him myself mind!

Not sure if this has been posted:

Obama's first visit to UK April 2009 (not a state visit)
Obama's State Visit to UK May 2011

What I guess we're talking about is saying 'No' to a 3 year old with a loaded gun who is waving it around in the sitting room in front of a group of perplexed and fearful adults - do you take that chance?

The antipathy isn't partisan but the stance taken on whether the visit should be full state or not is. The Tories don't want to acknowledge May's rookie mistake in offering a full state visit with 'indecent haste' as part of her brexit posturing and whether is is appropriate for trump as opposed to a non-state visit. She's the one who looks an eejit if the visit is downgraded so even though all acknowledged (mostly) his odious personal traits & policy, they won't want to rescind the invite.