Parent and child parking! 12 and 9 year old?!

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Just had a row with a woman in Tesco car park. I waited 15 minutes for parking - have to carry a fairly solid 6 month old to the shop (post cesarean - still not 100%!)

Anyway, this family were parked in child and parent bay with a 12 year old and a 9 year old. Both very capable of walking and opening doors! I commented that she was rude to park there, she said she was entitled to. Then her husband complained about me to the management!!!

Wtf!? Ainu??! Parent and child surely means young child that needs assistance??!

In a perfect world, standard car parking spaces would be just that little bit wider, so that parents could park in an ordinary space and still manage to get the kids out....

Lol away hope you got your taxi! Shopping anywhere near Christmas time is just bonkers anyway, I try and get dh to do it!

The number of people on here who challenge posters by saying "you don't know they were 10, they could have had ASD/ADHD" etc, are the very people I am talking about. So keen to find any reason that would justify and allow their behaviour.

justify and allow their behaviour

I do not need to 'justify my behaviour' of using a P&C space for my autistic 8yo. He's still going to have all the issues he has now when someone's baby has well outgrown their car seat. By saying justifying their behaviour. You're implying they're doing something wrong.

They legally using a P&C space. Not stealing £50 from the tills.

*They are.

Actually astounded. Some entitled numpty accosts a mum in front of her kids for using a space she's legally allowed to. Openly admits to waiting around fifteen minutes, presumably just to yell at her, why else would Tesco lady's DH call management unless it appeared volatile?

It's not people with ASD kids who need to justify their behaviour here is it?

They manage it perfectly well everywhere else InTheDeep .

welsh I did after the poor driver had to run through a list of addresses to find out which away was going to where. Put it this way, I was ever so smug with my sainsbos Christmas shop last year. Didn't need to fight anyone for the sprouts

Let's be honest no one actually needs them do they. If you have an older child that runs off you are more vigilant letting them out if you're further away. If you've got littlies in a car seat you park between 2 empty spaces which even at Christmas I can't say I've struggled to find. I have 2 under 1 years and can honestly say that a lack of p and c places never put me off going anywhere. They are handy at best but now really a necessity.

*had

The number of people on here who challenge posters by saying "you don't know they were 10, they could have had ASD/ADHD" etc, are the very people I am talking about. So keen to find any reason that would justify and allow their behaviour.
Dd looks perfectly fine until I bring her wheelchair round to the side of the car. I do not have to justify her disability to you or anyone else. Neither do I have to justify mine. If your complete and utter lack of both comprehension and empathy is hampering you, go see someone about it. Unless of course you have some sort of magical ability which enables you to read minds and medical records, in which case, do share...

Hhhmmm. I think they are obeying the letter OP, but not the principle. I think they were BU, but you were too by having a row.

I complained to our local morrisons about blue badge spaces being spread to the furthest ends of car park but parent spaces being super close with nice pathway. I asked if they could repaint a few spaces for badge holders closer to store. Basically told to fuck off as they spent money on store refit.

Oh but I was given special permission by manager of store to park in parent and child space.....

Ever how on earth was the Tesco lady unreasonable? She wasn't doing anything wrong.

And head office that should read

AwaywiththePixies27 what I am trying to say is that the lady is obeying the letter of the law *(figure of speech, not literally 'law') as in she has children, and by definition, her children, were, well, children. So according to the 'rules' she is not doing anything wrong. However, we all know that those spaces are designated for people needing them for access to push chairs etc, and not for almost pubescent 'children'. She is stretching the definition to suit her convenience. So I feel that she is BU by exploiting a loose definition, rather than appreciating that the unsaid understanding is that the parking facility is there for those with young children and babies. Within her rights I suppose, but not living up to the considerate person that society should expect.

No she isn't. They are not designated for people with pushchairs at all. She wasn't exploiting or stretching anything. She's entitled to park there. She parked in a suitable place for her and her DCs who we know nothing about and was verbally abused by the OP for doing so.

Good god how do you all manage in car parks without P&C spaces? Do you all just not go there?

*designated solely for people with pushchairs at all. That is meant to say.

God this just goes round in circles doesn't it? Can someone who 'needs' this extra wide apace so they can maneouvre tbeir baby/carseat/pushchair into or out of the car, please explain what they do when faced with the prospect of parking somewhere that doesn't have this 'necessary' extra space?

Can someone who 'needs' this extra wide apace so they can maneouvre tbeir baby/carseat/pushchair into or out of the car, please explain what they do when faced with the prospect of parking somewhere that doesn't have this 'necessary' extra space?
No, I can't, but I can tell you, if all the bb spaces are gone and the P&C spaces are used too, we often go elsewhere, or home.

Yep shotgun I'm just waiting for the thread to full up now.

Do you like oreos?

AwaywiththePixies27 You've hit the nail on the head. It comes down to the word entitled. Nothing about responsibilities or consideration for others. I'm entitled to keep my place in a checkout queue with two trolleys full, and keep the person behind waiting 30 minutes while i'll take my time deciding which coupons to use, when they only have a bottle of wine and a mars bar to buy. But the fair and nice thing to do is invite them to go first.

So, my question is, given that you're obviously more fixated on your rights than your responsibilities, what is the cut off for being classed as parent and child for this purpose? 12? 13? 16? 18? 21? 65- sorry, being facetious on that last one.

In my first post i feel that the OP was BU to start a row, clearly the circumstances aren't there to start a row. But i think she was entitled to a bit of a British semi-audible tut.

Dawndonna I wasn't referring to you - you're clearly someone who needs the space as opposed to one who 'needs' the space. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
Not keen on Oreos Away but count me in for the chocolate - thanks!

The matter of rights and responsibilities doesn't apply. It's not a legal issue - no one has the 'right' to these spaces. We're back to repeating the fact that they're a marketing ploy and not a legally-binding contract.

Not really Ever Tesco lady is entitled to use a P&C space, and go shopping without suffering verbal abuse off the OP in front of her children. Did you miss the bit where the OP called her fat? It really is that simple to those of us who dont have other entitlement issues.

^So, my question is, given that you're obviously more fixated on your rights than your responsibilities, what is the cut off for being classed as parent and child for this purpose? 12? 13? 16? 18? 21? 65- sorry, being facetious on that last one.

The cut off point has already been done to death. Under 12 in most stores. Tesco lady's DCs were under 12 so it's irrelevant. My responsibilities' are to my DCs. Not to look around in case there's an irate woman lying in wait to accost me over whether I can justify using the space. Funnily enough, most people in real life have better things to be doing with their time.

ShotgunNotDoingThePans you're right, absolutely. But I answered to the question that i didn't feel it was reasonable for the Tesco lady to park there. Whether it is, or should legal, within store policy etc. etc. is another debate. I'm not talking legal, I'm talking moral. I feel that she was unreasonable as she didn't really need it when others could have benefited from a small concession.