Parent and child parking! 12 and 9 year old?!

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Just had a row with a woman in Tesco car park. I waited 15 minutes for parking - have to carry a fairly solid 6 month old to the shop (post cesarean - still not 100%!)

Anyway, this family were parked in child and parent bay with a 12 year old and a 9 year old. Both very capable of walking and opening doors! I commented that she was rude to park there, she said she was entitled to. Then her husband complained about me to the management!!!

Wtf!? Ainu??! Parent and child surely means young child that needs assistance??!

Op has started another aibu.

Apparently Tesco thinks she's nbu

Many signs say under 12. I am always mystified about this parent and children parking when I see kids leaping out of cars and then running full pelt to get a trolley before the adult has even managed to get the doors closed. For me, only those children who need assistance to climb in and out and to be secured/released from safety seat should qualify. Amazing some are in the flipping front seat and yet parents park in the special areas. Had a bit of an altercation with a woman who drove into parking area at a farm play park. Came in like hat out of he'll, parked squint and very close to my car. I pointed out there wasn't much room for me to get back into my car. Oh, I thought "he"was going to be sick pointed at a child who had shot off whilst other two were running up and down inbetween our cars scratching the living daylights of my car's paint with their coat zips and then deciding the wing mirror would be a good handle for a swing. Child swinging on mirror came forward to mother and asked what she was saying: oh just something about her car. Fumed the rest of the day at farm play park about total lack of consideration. I did move my car to another spot as couldn't bare the thought of more paintwork damage. On leaving spotted same horrible person driving out. No wonder child felt sick going at full speed again down a farm track, bumps potholes you name it. Probably foot on accelerator and slam on brakes style of driver. Can just imagine her in supermarket parking, you'd have no chance!

That email doesn't say what you think it says.

I stopped using P&C spaces the millisecond my son could undo his belt. I did once shout at an older male who was on his own he'd forgotten his child though

My dc are 10, 8 and 6 and on occasion I park in p&c spaces. ALL my dc are still in car seats and I have to help at least 1 if not 2 buckle their seat belts and I need to open the door wider to do it. My car is wide and in some car parks the spaces are so narrow you can barely open the doors in a regular space.

Cinnamon - it's the unreasonable behaviour towards another family, such that they felt the need to report her. OP was it in front of their children and did u mention that in your e-mail? Sorry (again) for the slow recovery but again you are over dramatising. Lots of people have infections, lose blood and have severe anaemia after birth (me included). It has nothing to do with causing a row in a car park.

The parent and child parking around here is up to 12 years of age.
It will state on the sign.

I used to park in the parent and child spaces with my mum, she was disabled, if there weren't any bb spaces. She thought we'd get into trouble but as I pointed out to her we were parent and child. If you'd approached me I'd have told you to go fuck yourself.
I've got kids in fact I had twins so I know how hard shopping is. The email from Tesco is a generic you're making a mountain out of a molehill but we can't tell you to get a life so we will make soothing noises and hope you go away.

Oh no wait a minute. You can't call people fat. That's out of order

..... I see what you mean you guys with the popcorn!!!!

What age will your child be when you decide to stop using P & C spaces, OP?

Sorry but YABU. As other posters said they are children she is a parent. Did you expect her to get her kids back in the car then back out of the space and let you in? Even if the rule is under 12s and one was 12 the other was 9. Plus, you would have to carry the baby around the shop anyway even if you managed to get a parent and child space. If baby is so heavy and you are not 100% perhaps a pushchair would have helped. By your reasoning if you got a spot and someone with a newborn came you would have to get your child back in the car, strap them back in, restart the car and give up your space. It is first come first serve. Perhaps people shouldn't use ANY parent and child parking on the off chance someone with a younger child MAY come along and need parking. It's ridiculous.

If drivers don’t have a Blue Badge, or are not travelling with children under 12 they can expect a £40 – £70 penalty.

Read more: metro.co.uk/2016/10/08/tesco-to-fine-shoppers-who-park-in-disabled-and-parent-bays-without-permits-6179097/#ixzz4ZB9dzq8V

Loving the Dad who happily parked with their 23 year old child. Now there's a fella who can read a sign.

If drivers don’t have a Blue Badge, or are not travelling with children under 12 they can expect a £40 – £70 penalty

BB yes, the rest, not a chance.

Agreed winter on point of law, in terms of the dispute under discussion I posted that quote as it clearly states 'under 12'

I once had a woman tell me what for when I parked to return a large piece of furniture to IKEA. I pulled up to the 'drop off/returns' section. Grabbed a trolley. Opened boot, dragged the unwieldy package out on to the trolley. Closed boot. Locked car. Started to walk the 10 m to the returns section. She stopped me and told me in no uncertain terms 'it's not a car parking area'
So I calmly (surprised myself even) told her that I'm here on my own, couldn't carry the package from the car park and didn't have anyone with me to leave the package with while I moved the car. I asked if she wanted to watch the package and I'd move the car but she said she "didn't want the responsibility." So I left it at that.
Once in IKEA I asked staff what I should do and they said it was fine to park there for returns as long as I just did that. They were too busy to assist.
But for the rest of the afternoon I felt I'd done something wrong and couldn't quite shake it. To top it off, I was in a fluster because of that and ended up leaving my purse at the returns counter. And had a mad panic when I realised it was missing til I drove back and was reunited with it.
Lesson: avoid IKEA on a Saturday. Stress levels are contagious.
In the end it's better to ask if you can help someone than to chastise them. Or take a deep breath and leave it be, knowing you're doing the better thing or managing despite.
Also, if someone tells me off I'm most likely to be defensive than apologise.

YANBU OP

It's funny to see how many people that read "p&c" space think you only need to be a parent with a child to park there. Maybe the same people that think if you're a auntie with your nephew would not have the same right.
I would have said nothing if I were you but I would give a death stare to the mother.

I don't agree with the argument that its somehow ok to park in these without young children because they're not legally enforceable. There must be loads of things which aren't legally enforceable but you'd still be a twat if you did them. Struggling to think of a decent example at 4.30am though.

The terms and conditions at Sainsbury's say the spaces are for parents with children aged 12 and under. 99 times out of a hundred I'd use a normal space (DDs are 11 and 8) but very occasionally we've used a p&c space there.

Yabu.

Not really octus. People are just well aware they're a courtesy and not a legal right. Any lawyer worth their salt would have a field day in court with anybody they tried to fine. Anyone remember the case of the pregnant women a supermarket tried to 'fine".

I drive both a small car and a 7 seater people carrier, have 4 children, 1 under a year old, and hardly ever use the parent and child spaces. It's easy to park inbetween the white lines and I've perfected squeezing my baby out if I need to. I also remind my 9 year old twin boys to be careful when opening their door incase it's windy and not to hit another car with it. If someone has parked too close to my car on return, and can't keep in between their lines and my car door hits theirs, then that's their tough luck. I have both a baby carrier and a pushchair to use so I'm prepared for any situation. A lot of the shopping places near me have very few larger spaces and I'm not going to wait ages for a certain space. Shopping is stressful enough! So there you go ladies, you're free to use 'my' P&C space, no matter your circumstances, because I'm in a rush to get to the wine aisle

OMG you sent them an email. I'm cringing for you. The signs say they're for children under 12. The people had children under 12 with them.

Mind you, I'm impressed that you've got 3 kids and you've got time for this one woman crusade for something which you have no legal entitlement to. Then again, you did sit in your car waiting for 15 minutes for a P&C space so you're obviously got time on your hands

20 quid says this will be Matthew wrights topic this morning 😂.

Oh and op