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To think people need to get a grip.

105 replies

thunderbuddy · 17/02/2017 21:22

Today a young woman at our local train station died after taking her life in front of a moving train as it pulled into the station in front of a lot of other passengers and people on the platform.

It has been repeatedly explained at the station, on trains, on social media the reasons why the trains were delayed, the reasons why the next trains were busy etc and yet people are still moaning at the stations, on the trains and on social media. People are whining about compensation and money back and how unacceptable it is not to have a contingency of extra staff in case some of them might witness someone take their own life.

I mean come on people, I know it is annoying when you have your train delayed but someone DIED, you get to go home to your families tonight whether it be slightly late, that young girls family never will.

Feeling rather sad tonight.

OP posts:
piginboots · 17/02/2017 22:06

YANBU

ohtheholidays · 17/02/2017 22:14

That's so sad poor girl,what an horrendous way to die,she must have felt completely lost bless her Flowers

StumblyMonkey · 17/02/2017 22:20

When the announcement is quite clear that the delay is due to a suicide and people huff and puff and roll their eyes it is the same.

I've also heard many, many, many times people say:

"Why can't they just do it on their own time?"

"People are so selfish, why disrupt everyone else?" (Apparently the hypocrisy of this was lost on them!)

"Seriously. Do they have to do it at rush hour?"

Etc. Etc.

StumblyMonkey · 17/02/2017 22:23

...and I don't see how it can be seen as two distinct things.

They are moaning about the fact that their train is delayed due to a suicide. The very act of ignoring the suicide and focusing on their own inconvenience is what makes it so lacking in humanity.

HerRoyalFattyness · 17/02/2017 22:28

Awful. I'm not too far from where this happened. (That's if you're on about the same place slimjim is)
Sad you'd think people would behave a bit more respectfully. Someone died, the train being delayed really is not a big deal compared to that.

PlayOnWurtz · 17/02/2017 22:31

I disagree. I think that's a very human reaction to have.

StumblyMonkey · 17/02/2017 22:33

It's a very selfish reaction to have, is what it is.

user1486499646 · 17/02/2017 22:36

We may live in the same area as this happaned at our local trai staion today aswell. So sad yanbu people can be so selfish and disrespectful such a sad thing to happen to such a young girl and people make it abkut them selfs! Sad

TeenageCentaurMortificado · 17/02/2017 22:47

People can be so vile. I remember a Teen committed suicide by throwing himself off the top of a multi storey car park in my town. Encouraged by a crown gathering yelling at him to jump whilst some filmed it on their phones.

I have no words...!

TeenageCentaurMortificado · 17/02/2017 22:47

*crowd

SomewhatIdiosyncratic · 17/02/2017 23:07

I was caught up in the disruption of a similar type of incident last year on a motorway. What should have taken me an hours round trip to do took 5 hours due to the backlog triggered across the region. I had to rearrange school pickups, delegating to someone I only know casually. I was also ill and in pain, aggravated by the hunger from being trapped at a standstill for over 2.5 hours without access to toilet facilities. It didn't put me in a mood to feel particularly sympathetic at the time.

I feel incredibly sympathetic to the lorry driver and other witnesses involved. I feel incredibly sympathetic to the victims and family of his violent crimes that he commited shortly before. I feel no sympathy for him offloading the consequences of his actions of that day onto other innocent parties. My short term self pity for the inconvenience he caused me has faded. But although the individual effects that he had on tens of thousands of people that day was relatively minor to the lifetime of suffering he has inflicted on his family and the others he involved, nonetheless, he did impact tens of thousands of people by shutting down a major motorway at a busy time. It was a shitty finale to his vile actions.

AndNowItsSeven · 17/02/2017 23:27

" his vile actions" you do realise he was seriously unwell?

Notrevealingmyidentity · 17/02/2017 23:28

People would never say this sort of shit about someone who had a hypo or a fit or similar. Angry

MsJamieFraser · 17/02/2017 23:32

YABU in some aspects, YABU to think some will get home to see their families tonight, I didnt get to say Goodbye to my family member due to being stuck in traffic...

ZackyVengeance · 17/02/2017 23:36

Gosh the poor train driver

NoCapes · 17/02/2017 23:37

identity because someone having a hypo or a fit can't help it, and it's just a freak accident

Notrevealingmyidentity · 17/02/2017 23:41

Yes because people can help mental illness. Hmm

Notrevealingmyidentity · 17/02/2017 23:42

Really I just can't imagine why there is still a stigma.

NoCapes · 17/02/2017 23:43

Of course you can't help mental illness Hmm
But you can commit suicide in a less public and disruptive way, if you're serious about it there really is no need to publicise it and traumatise all the people who have to see it/deal with it/clean it up - I think that's the part people have a problem with

SovietKitsch · 17/02/2017 23:48

I'm not sure it's as black and white as this.

Why don't the train companies have contingencies in place? It is sadly not a scenario that is so rare that it's not worth having plans in place for that eventuality. I have been on trains effected by jumpers more than once, but most recently when it happened, we were put down at a station in the middle of nowhere, told the train would go no further, they wouldn't take us back to the previous station so we could make connections to elsewhere, gave us no information about how to get alternative modes of transport back to other stations. I had no idea where I was, how I could get to where I was going from there and the train company just washed their hands of the situation. I have no idea why the sadness of one person losing their life means the train company is absolved if its duty to all the other passengers?

ZackyVengeance · 17/02/2017 23:53

i can't begin to imagine how awful it must be to be that train driver. the after affects to them must be awful. yet they were just doing their job

UnbornMortificado · 18/02/2017 00:03

There are far less selfish manners to take your life.

With far less success rates. I doubt anyone suicidal is thinking about other people's business meetings or nursery drop offs/pick ups.

I can't imagine how much pain someone must be in to kill themselves in such a violent final way. That poor girl and the poor staff that witnessed it.

BBCNewsRave · 18/02/2017 00:10

NoCapes But you can commit suicide in a less public and disruptive way, if you're serious about it there really is no need to publicise it and traumatise all the people

Shock

They should just kill themselves quietly and unobtrusively?

Perhaps eveyone else should go about their business in a less disruptive way, and stop traumatising people so they feel suicidal... FFS.

JassyRadlett · 18/02/2017 00:11

You can feel sorry for the woman, and still be annoyed that you're going to be late to wherever you were heading. As someone else said, the two are not mutually exclusive.

You can also refrain from moaning and complaining to the station staff who can do fuck all about your annoyance.

SuperBeagle · 18/02/2017 00:13

You can also refrain from moaning and complaining to the station staff who can do fuck all about your annoyance.

You can also refrain from posting a thread on the internet moaning and complaining to people who can do fuck all about your annoyance at other peoples' annoyance.

But hey, that happened.