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It's a bigly Trump thread. Another beauty. But you don't need to know what's in it. I don't have to tell you. So there.

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amispartacus · 16/02/2017 22:37

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2855213-You-can-read-this-thread-anywhere-Even-in-a-Florida-resort-Its-a-secure-thread-Trump-cont

There was a press conference. It was interesting.

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amispartacus · 18/02/2017 19:44

It's against the first amendment, isn't it

Video at 48 mins

www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/feb/17/donald-trumps-press-conference-in-full-video

QUESTION: Just because of the attack of fake news and attacking our network, I just want to ask you, sir...

TRUMP: I’m changing it from fake news, though.

QUESTION: Doesn’t that under...

TRUMP: Very fake news.

QUESTION: ... I know, but aren’t you...

(LAUGHTER)

TRUMP: Go ahead.

QUESTION: Real news, Mr. President, real news.

TRUMP: And you’re not related to our new...

QUESTION: I am not related, sir. No. I do like the sound of Secretary Acosta, I must say.

TRUMP: I looked — you know, I looked at that name. I said, wait a minute, is there any relation there? Alex Acosta.

QUESTION: I’m sure you checked that out, sir.

TRUMP: OK. Now I checked it — I said — they said, “No, sir.” I said, “Do me a favor, go back and check the family tree.”

QUESTION: But aren’t you — aren’t you concerned, sir, that you are undermining the people’s faith in the First Amendment, freedom of the press, the press in this country, when you call stories you don’t like “fake news”? Why not just say it’s a story I don’t like.

TRUMP: I do that.

QUESTION: When you call it “fake news,” you’re undermining confidence in our news media (inaudible) important.

TRUMP: No, no. I do that. Here’s the thing. OK. I understand what you’re — and you’re right about that, except this. See, I know when I should get good and when I should get bad. And sometimes I’ll say, “Wow, that’s going to be a great story.” And I’ll get killed.

I know what’s good and bad. I’d be a pretty good reporter, not as good as you. But I know what’s good. I know what’s bad. And when they change it and make it really bad, something that should be positive — sometimes something that should be very positive, they’ll make OK. They’ll even make it negative.

So I understand it. So, because I’m there. I know what was said. I know who’s saying it. I’m there. So it’s very important to me.

Look, I want to see an honest press. When I started off today by saying that it’s so important to the public to get an honest press. The press — the public doesn’t believe you people anymore. Now, maybe I had something to do with that. I don’t know. But they don’t believe you. If you were straight and really told it like it is, as Howard Cosell used to say, right?

Of course, he had some questions also. But if you were straight, I would be your biggest booster. I would be your biggest fan in the world, including bad stories about me. But if you go — as an example, you’re CNN, I mean it’s story after story after story is bad. I won. I won. And the other thing, chaos because zero chaos. We are running — this is a fine-tuned machine and Reince happens to be doing a good job but half of his job is putting out lies by the press (ph).

You know, I said to him yesterday this whole Russia scam that you guys are building so that you don’t talk about the real subject which is illegal leaks, but I watched him yesterday working so hard to try and get that story proper. And I’m saying “here’s my chief of staff,” a really good guy, did a phenomenal job at RNC. I mean, he won the election, right?

We won the presidency. We got some senators, we got some — all over the country, you take a look, he’s done a great job. And I said to myself, you know — and I said to somebody that was in the room, I said “you take a look at Reince, he’s working so hard just putting out fires that are fake fires.” I mean, they’re fake. They’re not true. And isn’t that a shame because he’d rather be working on healthcare, he’d rather be working on tax reform, Jim (ph).

I mean that. I would be your biggest fan in the world if you treated me right. I sort of understand there’s a certain bias maybe by Jeff (ph) or somebody, you know — you know, whatever reason. But — and I understand that. But you’ve got to be at least a little bit fair and that’s why the public sees it. They see it. They see it’s not fair. You take a look at some of your shows and you see the bias and the hatred.

And the public is smart, they understand it. Go ahead.

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GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 19:45

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GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 19:46

Stop the Speaker
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Paul Ryan's newly unveiled RyanCare doesn't even pretend to give a shit what happens to poor people.

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 18/02/2017 19:46

I've still got a browser window open for the #TrumpPresser hashtag, which is still rattling along 48 hours later. This just popped up:

Seth Abramson‏ @SethAbramson

BREAKING: Fox News is reporting Trump was fully briefed on the Flynn call with Russia after it happened--and allowed Pence to be lied to.
3:12 AM · Feb 17, 2017

Lweji · 18/02/2017 19:47

Yes, I saw that bit. :)

When he said this: "TRUMP: OK. Now I checked it — I said — they said, “No, sir.” I said, “Do me a favor, go back and check the family tree.”"

I thought, at least it looks like he's checking something, if not how big a win he had. Wink

Lweji · 18/02/2017 19:48

Fox News is reporting Trump was fully briefed on the Flynn call with Russia after it happened--and allowed Pence to be lied to.

Wait... Fox News? Does Hannity know about it?
Is the Trump world about to end?

cozietoesie · 18/02/2017 19:49

WIN, WON, WIN, WON, GOOD, BAD.........Russia........................

(EP's speech.)

He doesn't like mention of Russia does he?

cozietoesie · 18/02/2017 19:49

Fox???

GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 19:51

I know - I saw that earlier re Fox news and just about fell over.However, the Shep blowup about Trump on Fox the other day was just as good to see. Grin

Lweji · 18/02/2017 19:54

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/16/trump-fully-briefed-on-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-source-says.html

Right next to "Kim explains her nipple-"? Who knows...

Shep is good and not a Trump minion. I like him. I think he was interviewed a few weeks ago by Colbert and they are friends.

cozietoesie · 18/02/2017 19:55

I wonder how much the courtiers are anxious? They haven't got EP's ...........interesting mindset and yet they know that if he goes down, well..........they're inextricably linked with him now.

Maybe there's some 'running to the Big Boss' and winding up going on as well? (As deflection tactics.)

amispartacus · 18/02/2017 19:55

Liberal moms reportedly force school to cancel skating party at Trump rink fxn.ws/2l1Sl6c

Grin
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woman12345 · 18/02/2017 19:56

David Mamet would have been pleased with the script above, ginger
Not sure if Trump's character could be developed much though.Grin
But it is all good copy, as Nora Ephron said.

amispartacus · 18/02/2017 19:57

I wonder if that was on Fox and friends Grin

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 18/02/2017 19:57

This is the Fox clip linked to further down that Twitter thread: mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/832396832974131200/video/1

Lweji · 18/02/2017 19:58

I love how that text starts with "An elite Upper East Side private school’s..."

At least they can't be accused of trying to bribe the President, as they're not giving him any money. Grin

cozietoesie · 18/02/2017 19:59

Gosh, illegitimate.

Lweji · 18/02/2017 20:00

In Trump's defence, though, if he was fully briefed about Flynn's conversations with the Russians, he probably didn't read it or was tweeting too much to pay any attention.

amispartacus · 18/02/2017 20:00

I think the media should start asking piss take questions.

Can our glorious leader tell us what he's achieved today?
What will out glorious leader tell us what he plans to do to MAGA?

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lionheart · 18/02/2017 20:01

I thought protresters were advised to steer clear of the rally because it is such a potential trap with the Trumpies trying to provoke or create a scene and a fierce crack down to follow.

GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 20:02

I'm sure there will still be protesters there.

Lweji · 18/02/2017 20:03

Protesters could hold a meeting tomorrow and then the media could compare the crowd size, as they did for the Inauguration.

GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 20:04

He apparently last week thought the protesters were supporters and berated media for not showing all his support.

GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 20:05

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 22s23 seconds ago
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Vladimir Putin issues executive order on Ukraine hours after Mike Pence vows to 'hold Russia to account'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-ukraine-war-crimea-rebels-separatists-executive-order-documents-donetsk-a7587666.html

Insight anyone??

GingerIvy · 18/02/2017 20:08

Michael Arceneaux ‏*@youngsinick* 13h13 hours ago
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Larry Wilmore, who no longer has a show, tells a white supremacist to fuck off on show where host coddles bigot.

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/18/larry-wilmore-blasts-milo-yiannopoulos-on-real-time-go-f-ck-yourself.html?via=desktop&source=twitter