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It's a bigly Trump thread. Another beauty. But you don't need to know what's in it. I don't have to tell you. So there.

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amispartacus · 16/02/2017 22:37

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2855213-You-can-read-this-thread-anywhere-Even-in-a-Florida-resort-Its-a-secure-thread-Trump-cont

There was a press conference. It was interesting.

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sunnyhills · 17/02/2017 16:58

That weekly broadcast link posted by ginger shows Trump reading an autocue .V v badly .

And why is he squinting so much ? Or has he got something in his right eye ?
www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/1226385200782544/

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 16:58

Thank you Roussette

mavis I've been seeing people saying it on twitter.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 16:59

I tried abclive but it's Munich security with McCain on there (a panel discussion).

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:00

Eugene Scott ‏*@Eugene*_Scott

@CNNPolitics Reporter • Capitol Hill, national politics & identity politics
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'These people are not only revolting against Trump, they’re revolting against what God’s plan is for America.'

www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-people-who-oppose-trump-are-revolting-against-god/

Urgh. Don't even get me started on Pat Robertson. Angry

Roussette · 17/02/2017 17:01

I think Spicer is with Trump that's why...

woman12345 · 17/02/2017 17:02

Ginger, is there anything on this one? (News media checking into this) re green card checking.

His modus operandi, and that of his servants, seems to be throwing racist or just moronic stink bombs out there and watching the reaction. It said 'considering' introducing in DT article

Is he and Spicer 'having a larff'? Albeit an evil one, which canny resistance can beat:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/17/day-without-immigrants-protest-restaurants-economy-trump

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:04

woman Not sure - apparently media are checking into it.

Roussette · 17/02/2017 17:06

Nope, cannot find Spicer, how irritating just when I could've watched it!

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:06

I'm watching Senate discussion on Pruitt... but still haven't located where Angry Spice will be talking.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:07

CNN International ‏*@cnni* 47s48 seconds ago
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President Trump's sons Donald Jr. and Eric will help inaugurate a new Trump Golf Club in Dubai this weekend

money.cnn.com/2017/02/17/news/dubai-golf-club-trump/index.html?sr=twcnni021717dubai-golf-club-trump0506PMStoryLink&linkId=34615383

Lweji · 17/02/2017 17:08

So, no ban to Dubai refugees? Wink

Roussette · 17/02/2017 17:10

"The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, told press on board the Marine One helicopter, on which Trump was flying to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland en route to South Carolina: “That is 100% not true. It is false. It is irresponsible to be saying this.” Spicer on the 100,000 troops. So yes he is with the Orange One.

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 17:11

Oh I'm just waiting for someone to ask my (70 year old) auntie for her green card.

I suspect they will get the same short shrift as the revolutionary guards who try to tell her off for having a lock of hair on show. She's dealt with worse.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:13

Okay. perhaps it will show on the live stream soon on abc. It says coming up Pres visits Boeing in SC.

So steamed over the Senate - voting before the emails are being released. Because they bloody know it'll blow Pruitt right out of the water.

Lweji · 17/02/2017 17:14

"The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, told press on board the Marine One helicopter, on which Trump was flying to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland en route to South Carolina: “That is 100% not true. It is false. It is irresponsible to be saying this.” Spicer on the 100,000 troops.

So, we can confidently say that they were planning 100 001 or more, or 99 999 or slighly less troops?

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:14

Ryan Teague Beckwith ‏*@ryanbeckwith*

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Here is the full 11-page draft memo about using the National Guard for deportations bit.ly/2lVL6eo

Lweji · 17/02/2017 17:15

Surely, the mention of emails should be enough for GOP to vote against Pruitt? Grin

GoesDownLikeACupOfColdSick · 17/02/2017 17:16

Thought you lot might like this:

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/piss-eyed-tango-monster-demands-everyone-say-nice-things-about-it-20170217122330

Lweji · 17/02/2017 17:19

Not related to the thread (well, marginally related), but the Daily Mash have our friend Morgan the pirate as a guest blog

woman12345 · 17/02/2017 17:20

Cheers ginger it's like MASH ( I'm old); so much 'incoming', it's difficult to triage.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:22

woman Big fan of MASH here (old too) - sometimes catch it on tv. Grin I completely understand what you're saying.

abcnews.go.com/Live

Thats what I'm watching Senate on right now - possibly Angry Spice will be on there/

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:26

Very fucking annoying GOP on there right now.

Neverthelessshepersisted · 17/02/2017 17:27

this thread is making hard reading.
thanks for continuing.

PausingFlatly · 17/02/2017 17:33

SanFranBear, I know, I keep having to double-check and consider the other point of view too.

But a couple of things stand out for me.

Completely separate from this Republican administration's policies, Trump's behaviour is clearly awry.

And because his extreme behaviour (obsessively self-aggrandizing, not interested in essential information, not understanding why his whim isn't law, not understanding the responsibilities as well as the privileges of the Office) is so far from what's needed to do the job, it's clear that the behaviour of the people who knew him well and still helped him into the job were just looking for a frontman - eg Bannon who got himself assigned to the NSC without Trump understanding what he was signing (supposedly). So that behaviour is waving red flags and sounding big red hooters, regardless of policy.

If you do consider policies... it's clear that he is doing the complete opposite of what he campaigned on, when it benefits him or his mates. Although he's happy to stir the emotional pot.

I understand the urge to normalise, to assume the truth must be half-way between where you are, and where he is. But there is no rule that it must be so. Indeed, trading on this urge to accommodate is why "The Big Lie" technique is so successful.

Of course it's also important to avoid the fallacy that any position or group which is anti-Trump must therefore be the correct answer: each policy or action still needs to be judged on its merit, just as always.

But I'm not having any difficulty at all judging the Trump White House to be not behaving commensurate with running a fully democratic, constitutional country, which abides by the rule of democratically created law.

At the moment, the White House looks more like the home of a god-king who thinks the USA is his private fiefdom.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 17:37

Ha. Rule 19 invoked against GOP.

Boeing SC on abclive now

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