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amispartacus · 15/02/2017 13:10

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2852511-This-thread-will-see-you-in-court-Again-Trump-watch

I had a million thread titles to choose from....Grin

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BagelGoesWalking · 16/02/2017 14:03

Place marking - can't keep up with these threads!

woman12345 · 16/02/2017 14:13

Not sure whether I agree or disagree with this one, but well put argument that shutting down speech makes the them look like victims.
www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-mistake-the-berkeley-protesters-made-about-milo-yiannopoulos

hackmum · 16/02/2017 14:31

"I'm not really sure what what point it is you are trying to make Hackmum?"

OK, here goes. In summary. Allen Frances's argument was that Trump doesn't have a mental illness because mental illness will stop you functioning, and Trump functions perfectly well.

I said that psychopathy was a mental illness and people with psychopathy function well, with some even becoming CEOs.

You said that psychopathy was a personality disorder, which wasn't the same as a mental illness.

I quoted from Allen Frances's original letter, which uses the terms mental disorder and mental illness synonymously. Therefore psychopathy (if we believe Frances) is both a disorder and an illness. Therefore it is possible to have a mental disorder/mental illness and function successfully. Therefore it is possible that Trump does have a mental disorder/mental illness.

peaceout · 16/02/2017 14:31

Donald J. Trump ‏*@realDonaldTrump* 18m18 minutes ago
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FAKE NEWS media, which makes up stories and "sources," is far more effective than the discredited Democrats - but they are fading fast!

heads up, he's back with the CAPS LOCK tactics

(who is doing the fading? the fake news media or the democrats?Confused)

peaceout · 16/02/2017 14:38

I feel like we have lots of crossed wires here Hackmum:o

nevertheless.....lets hope Trump has an extreme mental breakdown very very soon, live on twitter so we can all enjoy it
I hope we can agree that would be fun to watch?
(or do I lack empathy? )

BiglyBadgers · 16/02/2017 14:44

That's an interesting article woman and I do think that the right have used the Berkeley incident as a weapon to show how intolerant the left really is in their view. However, it was a university and students are not known for their subtle, considered reactions. Yiannopoulos really is an odious person and it can be hard to know how to deal with his particular brand of overtly aggressive offensiveness.

Ideally the protesters would have arranged a competing amazing event on campus with loads of free booze and awesome bands so nobody turned up. Or maybe all stood around outside the venue looking non-plussed and asking loudly who this Yiannopoulos person is and suggesting may he breeds cats or something Grin

blueskyinmarch · 16/02/2017 14:44

Donald J. Trump ‏*@realDonaldTrump* 3m3 minutes ago
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The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!

And this just now.

BiglyBadgers · 16/02/2017 14:46

Goodness, he needs to get over the election numbers Hmm

cozietoesie · 16/02/2017 14:46

I think that if you're hoping, peace, you had better hope that any episode is in public and not in the Residence - and that he loses his memory and can't remember the Gold Codes. Less than 10 minutes is it?

cozietoesie · 16/02/2017 14:48

It's the possible Russian connection, Bigly. That's what is exercising him.

GingerIvy · 16/02/2017 14:56

You think he has 306 tattooed on his ass? 🙄

woman12345 · 16/02/2017 14:56

BiglyBadgers
He is odious

I think your cat idea could work the best.

Or send in Sasha Baron Cohen to lead a sing song:

( He has a Phd in Shoah studies, think he could see this all coming down the track)
AcrossthePond55 · 16/02/2017 14:57

So, even in the face of incontrovertible proof of the Trump/Russia ties, he thinks he just needs to say "I say it's not so!" and people, rational people, will say "Oh, that's ok then".

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time". A. Lincoln

MsHooliesCardigan · 16/02/2017 14:57

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE ELECTION, YOU ORANGE TWAT. YOU WON!!!!!
He is coming across more and more like a petulant toddler. Can you imagine what he would have been like if he'd won the popular vote but lost the election? We'd have to endure 10 years of 'Its not FAIR!!!!!!'

cozietoesie · 16/02/2017 15:07

The closer people get to the 'connection', MrsHoolies, the more he'll likely go on about the election. What else can he say, after all, given who he is?

Chippednailvarnishing · 16/02/2017 15:20

You think he has 306 tattooed on his ass? 🙄

No I think he has "The Donald", to remind him who he is.

BiglyBadgers · 16/02/2017 15:22

He is trying to turn this back on the Dems and the media by saying the whole discussion about Russia is just a big plot by the Dems to unseat him. He is the victim and they are the ones attacking democracy. I think the close he gets to falling the more he will sell it to his followers as a conspiracy against them. I fully expect incitement to violence.

GingerIvy · 16/02/2017 15:23

Some people are calling it the funniest Trump proposition so far: "Mike Flynn was treated very unfairly by the media, so I had to fire him."

Roussette · 16/02/2017 15:32

Hmmmm.

To me it's like he's clutching at straws with that tweet with the numbers and Dems fake news/Russia.

He may be pig ignorant, can't string a sentence properly and altogether be an odious orange slug, but... he's not entirely stupid and he knows there is Russia stuff out there. Just look at Adam Khan's twitter feed, it's not hearsay, he has written facts. Trump is trying to push blame elsewhere.

Just skimmed AKhan's twitter feed... solid evidence provided of...

  • Manafort involved in $18M cable TV deal with Putin's close friend
  • NY Times reporting $12M payment from Putin to Trump's campaign CEO
  • a lawsuit which names DT as a material witness in evasion of taxes on $250M and laundering to Russia.
  • US treasury fined DT's casinos $10M for longstanding money laundering (court docs shown). All emails at all casinos routinely deleted.
All this taken from official docs, and as for Kushner, I'd be here all night if I picked through his ties to Russia.

I want the whole house of cards to come tumbling down.

Lweji · 16/02/2017 15:36

The Times cover (I'm sure he'll be pleased to be on the cover again)

TIMEVerified account ‏*@TIME*

TIME’s new cover: Inside Donald Trump's White House chaos ti.me/2kNjcjU

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Lweji · 16/02/2017 15:39

I think that a lot of people with NPD and sociopathy are not 'distressed' by their condition in the way that someone with severe anxiety or psychosis is distressed but I think nearly all of them are deeply unhappy

Trump doesn't look like a happy person, does he?

cozietoesie · 16/02/2017 15:39

He hasn't done 'enough', Lweji.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/02/2017 15:41

And now Scrotus wants to select one of his billionaire friends to
'review' US intelligence agencies.

www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/stephen-feinberg-white-house-intelligence-agencies/index.html

And still his supporters don't see his rampant lies and cronyism. They're the 'some of the people all of the time' that A Lincoln was talking about!

SafariSoGood · 16/02/2017 15:43

I see SCROTUS threw up all over Twitter again today.

Fake bloody news YAWN, he needs to get a job and stop obsessing
Will now catch up Grin

Lweji · 16/02/2017 15:45

Just a couple more pictures.

The reality behind the lies (balding, fake tan).

How his opponents feel these days (and observers).

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