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This thread will see you in court.Again. Trump watch

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amispartacus · 12/02/2017 09:00

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2850730-She-was-told-to-be-quiet-Nevertheless-she-persisted-Trump-cont

I wonder when this thread will fill up.

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GingerIvy · 14/02/2017 00:28

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GingerIvy · 14/02/2017 00:34

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#BREAKING: Senate confirms Mnuchin as Treasury secretary hill.cm/3hZobap

I had so hoped the GOP had grown a spine. So so wrong.

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 14/02/2017 01:07

So so sorry to hear about the 'pro-life' agenda being pushed so hard, I've never understood it and feel it's a terrible setback for women's rights :( hopefully it will be challenged in the courts.

Lweji · 14/02/2017 01:27

It will only push abortion underground, done by unlicensed people, in poor conditions, risking the lives of the women who feel they have no options, because at the same time they don't offer enough support for single mothers.

My own country was proud recently that no women have died from abortion complications since abortion was legalised. And that's how it should be.

Such measures are not only a problem in terms of women's rights, but also in terms of women's health and safety.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/02/2017 01:34

I'm certainly not a Constitutional lawyer, Seneca, so I have no idea if a consent law would strictly violate RvW. They'd probably argue that it isn't saying a woman 'can't' have an abortion, simply that the putative father has 'equal rights' to decision-making based on being 50% 'responsible' for the life. A flawed argument vs a woman's, no anyone's, right to determine what goes on with their own body. Quite a few states have voted in regulations that make getting an abortion tougher although most of those have to do with the practitioner and service provider, rather than the woman herself.

Maybe someone should draft legislation saying that a woman has the right to veto her partner's vasectomy. Or that a woman has the right to have as many children as she wants and her partner has no right to 'deny' her a child and must impregnate her at her will. That'd go over like a lead balloon, wouldn't it? But they certainly have no problem with 'vice versa' do they?

It certainly is a slippery slope, isn't it?

SenecaFalls · 14/02/2017 02:33

Across Laws requiring spousal notice (so even less burdensome than consent) have been held unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. But state legislatures keep pushing the boundaries, hoping that at some point the make-up of the federal courts, especially the Supreme Court, will be more sympathetic to restrictions.

SenecaFalls · 14/02/2017 04:00

CNN is reporting that Flynn has resigned.

DoctorTwo · 14/02/2017 04:17

thehill.com/homenews/administration/319367-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn-resigns

The Hill, Guardian, BBC amd others are all reporting what SenecaFalls posted.

SenecaFalls · 14/02/2017 04:35

And the White House has known that there was an issue with Flynn for some time.

www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/michael-flynn-justice-department-warning/index.html

merrymouse · 14/02/2017 06:06

mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/831358564103024640

Resignation letter about misleading Pence, not about deliberately undermining Obama sanctions which were a response to Russian intervention in election.

BiglyBadgers · 14/02/2017 08:20

Morning all. Heard about Flynn resignation on the radio this morning. I wonder if it will push people to look more are Trump's Russian connections now.

Neverthelessshepersisted · 14/02/2017 08:20

Where is everyone?

Who will replace Flynn? Another crazy person?

Natsku · 14/02/2017 08:23

Very worrying what's going on with abortion over there.

I had no idea the Finnish were worried about being invaded by Russia. This thread really is an education

Its not so much an actual worry, just an increase of the usual wariness. I still think Russia knows it would not be worth their time and effort to invade Finland, I'm more concerned for the Baltic States.

Lweji · 14/02/2017 08:26

The Independent is highlighting that Sally Yates had warned the Administration. It makes me wonder if that was one reason she was sacked.

Neverthelessshepersisted · 14/02/2017 08:28

The letter of resignation is a "humble rag"

Is this more scandal than Obama achieved in 8years?

Neverthelessshepersisted · 14/02/2017 08:29

Humblebrag

BiglyBadgers · 14/02/2017 08:29

Where is everyone?

I was thinking the same thing. I was starting to worry my tablet had broken as nobody had posted for 2 whole hours Grin

merrymouse · 14/02/2017 08:31

Remember the language used when Sally Yates was sacked? She had 'betrayed' her department.

Destinysdaughter · 14/02/2017 08:31

I find this really chilling. Describing women as just 'hosts' once they become pregnant...

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ZebraOwl · 14/02/2017 08:32

Morning all. While clearly the posters on this thread are the best posters & Making Mumsnet Great Again (etc), rather than go all soppy on you, I thought I'd opt for this C19 vinegar Valentine that seems strangely apt for [the subject/antihero of] this thread Wink

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Neverthelessshepersisted · 14/02/2017 08:32

The abortion thing is The Handmaid'sTale. Shits.

merrymouse · 14/02/2017 08:34

I'm more concerned for the Baltic States.

Would Russia really invade an EU country?

amispartacus · 14/02/2017 08:35

Wakes up.
Hears Angry Spice said Trump reviewing Flynn's situation
Hears Kellyanne said Trump has full confidence in Flynn.

Maybe Kellyanne should be asked if Trump has confidence in Spicer
Maybe Spicer should be asked if Trump has confidence in KellyAnne

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BiglyBadgers · 14/02/2017 08:37

That poem is a thing of wonder zebra Grin

amispartacus · 14/02/2017 08:37

Would Russia really invade an EU country

Salami tactics...Think of Ukraine and Crimea.

This video is about nuclear weapons - it's cold war era but still applies now.From Yes Prime Minister

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