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to feed DS rice cakes

104 replies

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 08:50

Mil is worried and getting a bit judgy about our parenting after reading something about rice cakes containing poison or something. Has anyone else heard about this?

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ineedwine99 · 12/02/2017 13:44

She hasn't taken to porridge for some reason. As i say we only give her a small amount made up with her usual formula then mixed with something like an Ella pouch etc and she takes the whole pouch. Its more to A ensure she's full and B she gets the nutrients from the formula, we started doing this as she is less interested in taking bottles now so was dropping too many oz's a day. I will keep persevering with porridge though

TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 13:54

You'd be dead without sodium and chloride ions in your body just as you'd be dead without sugar in your body. Salt and starch are good in your diet. Sodium and sugar are good in your body.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 15:47

Since when has pointing out a genuine potential risk you don't happen to know about been "judgy"?

Have you met my mother in law? The judgement came because we hadn't heard of the risk and didn't really believe it. She reads the daily mail, everything causes cancer according to them so I'm never sure which scare stories have some truth behind them.

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MrsNuckyThompson · 12/02/2017 16:49

Speaking as a type 1 diabetic I can confirm that sugar is glucose and carbs are glucose. It is correct to say you don't need refined sugar in your diet but essentially, yes, all carbs are 'sugars' (in the sense that 'sugars' is just another word for glucose).

TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 17:13

Speaking as a type 2 diabetic, yes, all carbs break down to glucose, but it's misleading to say that starch is sugar, as such.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 18:31

Btw, it's totally unrelated to this incident but my mother-in-law moved my lube Angry

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TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 18:33

The important thing is to work out if the amount in the bottle has gone down at all.

TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 18:34

*is if

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 18:35

Oh Christ, thanks for that sobering thought Grin

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TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 18:53

Wait, no, I don't need that extra "is".

Enjoy avoiding that conversation for the rest of your natural lives, anyway.

user1484226561 · 12/02/2017 19:42

but it's misleading to say that starch is sugar, as such. o for goodness sake, it is a sugar, if you were to say differently on your GCSE paper, you would be marked wrong.

Carbohydrate means composed of carbon hydrogen and oxygen. It is the chemical name. to return to the loose analogy made earlier, sodium chloride is the chemical name for salt. Salt is it's name. Sodium chloride it its chemical name. Sodium chloride means composed of sodium and chlorine.

TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 19:45

Meh. If you want to think eating a bowl of noodles is the same as necking a bag of Tate+Lyle's best, knock yourself out.

user1484226561 · 12/02/2017 20:00

what I said, in response to being asked if it was unreasonable to feed rice cakes to a baby, is ,yes, it is mostly air, you are filling up the tummy with nothingness, when the baby needs sugar and fat.

that is what i said, followed by a load of people trying to say carbohydrates like starch are not sugar, and they are wrong.

AliceInHinterland · 12/02/2017 20:02

While I've enjoyed the scientific detail of the debate, I don't think it's a helpful public health message to say that toddlers need 'sugar'. Most people interpret this to mean sugars as in the bit on a food label that says 'of which sugars' which are the bit which are most likely to cause issues with insulin sensitivity, as I understand it.
Where did she put your lube OP? Where was it originally?

TheOtherSock · 12/02/2017 20:07

Starch is not sugar. Starch is a complex carbohydrate. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate. You can break down complex carbohydrates into simple carbohydrates. Enjoy your sugar-air. And get a proper username

AliceInHinterland · 12/02/2017 20:08

I think it's fair for user to say, don't worry about giving up rice cakes, they are pointless and are probably supplanting healthier foods. But they are so easy, portable and keep those little hands and mouths busy, which for me can be a godsend.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 20:11

Alice: I was in hospital having DS. She decided to come round and tidy up for my return. When I returned I discovered she'd moved everything out of the top drawer of my bedside table and put baby socks in there instead. My lube was sitting on top of a chest of drawers.

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AliceInHinterland · 12/02/2017 20:16

Is it not a truth universally acknowledged that the top drawer of a bedside table is strictly off limits?!

NoArmaniNoPunani · 12/02/2017 20:20

It's bloody should be, she has no boundaries.

Agree with Sock about those user10906006543 names. I went away from MN for a while and when I returned, there were loads of them.

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NarkyMcDinkyChops · 12/02/2017 23:21

,yes, it is mostly air, you are filling up the tummy with nothingness

You can't fill up a "tummy" with nothingness or air. Because nothingness isn't a thing that fills anything! Are you 2?

user1484226561 · 12/02/2017 23:30

You can't fill up a "tummy" with nothingness or air. Because nothingness isn't a thing that fills anything!

yes you can. It is not a complicated idea! why do people struggle with this? If you are eating something made largely of air, then the stuff that goes down into your stomach is largely air, which makes you feel full, so you don't eat any more... that is why rice cakes/ pop corn are recommended for dieters.

Not for babies!

user1484226561 · 12/02/2017 23:31

you have filled the baby up to the point where he stops eating, but have not given him any nutrients

NarkyMcDinkyChops · 12/02/2017 23:34

That isn't how stomachs, or hunger, work. You can't fill up on air.
You're talking marbles.

user1484226561 · 12/02/2017 23:36

yes you can, obviously especially if the food you have just eaten consists of thousands of tiny air bubbles, and hunger is switched off by stretch receptors in the stomach wall, that is EXACTLY how hunger works.

NarkyMcDinkyChops · 12/02/2017 23:39

Nope.