To be ashamed of the Labour Party leadership

[20nil]

Long term member, did not support Corbyn, but even I am surprised by quite how bad he's been.

Where is the opposition? I get that Brexit is difficult, but where is Labour on the collapse of the NHS, the explosion of homelessness, the decimation of local council funding and the ticking bomb that is school funding?

Why is it that we now look to the Lords, the Cof E and petitions to be the opposition?

Shocking state of affairs.

lalsy we are the same age and yes the dead horses at Hyde park are a dreadful memory as we're the two little boys killed in Manchester and my home town bombing of brum.

I have Jewish friends like you and they are scared and alienated.

I sgrrr so much too with you birds labour isn't a private members party that you only join if you can prove your far left credentials ffs it's supposed to be her majesty's opposition and represent the aspirations and rights of millions of working class/middle class people. Not a small fucking clique who I strongly suspect have trust funds and play at being left wing to justify their idle life styles and talking shop politics.

Fucking disgraceful.

Rugby you are a disgrace. The Daily Mail supported Nazism.

I'm disgusted that the British Army took innocent lives, and yes it happened. Just as I'm disgusted that the IRA planted a bomb outside McDonalds.

This isn't the forum for this though. If you wish to start a thread about atrocities, then feel free to do so. Stop hijacking with vitriolic jingoism.

Also Rugby do you believe the war in Iraq that Blair led us into was justified?

Slarti when have all these challenges and uturns in government policy taken place since Corbyn has been leader

Tax credits was down to the House of Lords though Corbyn has taken credit for that

Issues with doctors strike the Tories walked all over them

Brexit well apart from his lacklustre and childish campaigning not sharing a platform with DC we all know he lied

May told us at the beginning of October that in March she would trigger Article 50. Four months have passed and labour still have not put forward their proposals that is his job to get his party in line to work together towards something but he has done fuck all he is a fucking disgrace. We need an opposition we need to have someone leading the opposition who is capable of doing so and can hold the Tories to account

Last week he is totally flustered as the Tories changed tactics what would he be like in senior international meetings

But keep supporting him and allow the Tories to win the next election and trample over the very people the Labour Party are supposed to be working for

elendion are you drunk?

I hate the daily mail, I campaigned against the Iraq war.

I will post on what I feel is justified. Clearly you are a bully and can quite understand why you support Corbyn.

I am reporting your personal attack.

Actually I won't report as you not worth it.

Corbyn is allowing the Tories to gut the country

You have to take your hat off to the Tories for getting people to believe this tripe. Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems were the practice run, now they really have perfected the art of getting the public to blame someone else for their own harmful policies. Smh

What is actually happening is that the pathetic performance by Labour has created a vacuum that UKIP are very happy to fill.

But keep supporting him and allow the Tories to win the next election

You've got that backwards, it's your opposition that will help the Tories. If you don't vote Labour you can't blame anyone but yourself if they aren't elected, but again hats off to the Tories for getting people to believe otherwise!

Are you drunk Rugby?

Since when did I say I supported Corbyn? You clearly don't understand the question.

Oh yes we are all being manipulated by the Tories, right wing press and false news

Do you realise how pathetic and childish these insults are

Meanwhile in the real world the Tories are going ahead (and working on) their plans for the NHS, Brexit, Education and so on without any worries of them being opposed they have never had it so good

Everyone knows the Tories are gutting the country for spoils. Corbyn is so ineffectual as a leader, he cannot stop it. His remit is, well what actually? Hold on to some principles cooked up in the early 70s?

I find myself praising what Labour 'rebels' say and the Scottish MSPs. That's where his incompetence has led me to.

oh please

A few hundred thousand Labour Party members not voting for Corbyn in an GE isn't going to stop labour coming to power it is all the voters that we can't win over and pull back from the SNP and UKIP

The Tories don't need to get people to believe this tripe Enthusiasm The msm do that on their behalf. Free media, no questions asked. At least in the USA, they are taking the fight to Trump. We in the UK just shrug our shoulders and, without a hint of irony, say, c'est la vie.

FFS, why can't JC supporters comprehend that being critical of him does not make one a Tory? It's perfectly possible to think JC is hopeless while also despising the Tories and even being pretty left wing? This siege mentality is part of the problem.

And I'm sure I'm not the only member who has been told at CLP meetings that I'm Tory light because I don't support JC. Do you have any idea how insulting that is for people who've been Labour activists for years? Especially when it comes from a bunch of blow ins who do fuck all actual constituency work.

The Tory vitriolic EU sceptic MP (who is also anti gay marriage) in my constituency has now got to go to the Education secretary, Justine Greening - a remain voter - on behalf of a huge local petition to plead that education funds not be reduced in this area.

And yes 20nil, I can no longer go to my local Labour monthly meetings because they know my stance.

This is how I feel about politics now, both within and without the Party:
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elendon please could you explain why I am a disgrace?

Reading back I think you have mixed me up with another poster or indeed you are drunk?

I am a Labour Party member since 1979 chick. I lived through militant tendancy in the 80s and saw how our internal politics allowed thatcher to run wild just like Corbyn is allowing May now.

He's a prat.

My local meeting have been taken over by the new grassroot voters

Those anghsty mc types that know what's best for the working class

Luckily we haven't been taken over yet. There are plenty of us who tell them where to go so safety in numbers is still possible.

Who do people think might be feasible leaders? Too right wing for me and I would love a woman, but I think Dan Jarvis would appeal widely. His recent conspicuous silence has been interesting.

Enthusiasm are you in Bristol? It all sounds very familiar to what's happening here.

No in London