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She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

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amispartacus · 09/02/2017 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

As promised

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amispartacus · 10/02/2017 07:59

I generally refer to it as Obamacare as lots of people get confused and think ACA is something different

I bet that media and politician associating it with Obama can have positive and negative effects depending on who is being asked Grin

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amispartacus · 10/02/2017 08:06

I'm sure Trump will find a way to mess that up and piss China off as well

In case we forget:

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Lweji · 10/02/2017 08:07

I don't think China get pissed off as such.
They get what they want. Even if it takes time.

"It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop."
Confucius

Here's some others that Trump should heed:

Silence is a true friend who never betrays.

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
(Also supported by Socrates)

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:09

They weren't pleased about those south sea islands... that was China, right? Early, no coffee yet. I get up at 5am, but usually no coffee until about 9am. The longest part of my day.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:29

Will Saletan ‏*@saletan*

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I doubt firing Flynn will insulate Trump from this scandal. But it's pretty clear that Flynn will have to be fired.

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.0ad63fc305b5

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:31

hey look!! He wants to piss off Canada as well!!!

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Lweji · 10/02/2017 08:31

It's just another scandal.
Why is Flynn such a problem?

Lweji · 10/02/2017 08:32

Because Sarah Palin has to cross Canada every time she commutes?

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:34

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illegitimateMortificadospawn · 10/02/2017 08:35

Sarah Palin? I feel insulted for the Canadians and I'm British.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:36

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OFM. "Own Force Monitoring" is a tool to catch American spies communicating w/our enemies. Seems we caught one.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 10/02/2017 08:36

Morning all!

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:41

Lweji Apparently he's violated some laws discussing official foreign policy as a citizen only (it was before Trump was inaugurated and before Flynn was given his position) with a foreign policy advisor of another country. He basically was interfering with the (at the time) current government policies - especially bad as Obama and his admin were in the process of increasing sanctions on Russia and Flynn was telling them behind Obama's back not to worry, as soon as Trump got in, they'd drop the sanctions. Big bad.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:43

Especially with our Sec of Def Mattis in his hearing admitting Russia remains a major threat to US.

Lweji · 10/02/2017 08:45

Yes, my question is more in relation of why this would matter more than other scandals.

To be fair, I understand the legal issue (and by all means they should run with it, but it could mean a worse person getting in) but if he discussed what the next administration might do, it was nothing really new or that Trump hadn't suggested.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:48

I think they're trying to a-chip away at the shit around Trump and b-weaken his inner circle. IMO they need to get Bannon urgently. He and Trump must be frothing - I keep expecting a flurry of terrifying EOs as revenge.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:50

They now have something solid on Flynn and Patriot Barbie. Whether or not they have something on Pence remains to be seen - if they have no proof he was aware of the extent of Flynn's discussions, then he is okay. I have no doubt Pence will happily throw Flynn to the lions - but does Flynn have enough to take a few of them down with him? That's the question.

originalbiglymavis · 10/02/2017 08:51

So who would be a more palatable president? I don't know enough about the politicians in the States to have a guess.

MsHooliesCardigan · 10/02/2017 08:52

I can't believe he's only been Prez for 3 weeks. Can you imagine how much destruction he could wreak in 4 years?!

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:53

I note that Ivanka Trump has been very quiet and pretty much unseen the last couple days in WH footage. Laying low until it blows over re her business? Or laying the groundwork for one that doesn't bear her name.

originalbiglymavis · 10/02/2017 08:55

Or changing her name by deed poll.

originalbiglymavis · 10/02/2017 08:55

Or changing her name by deed poll.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:56

Mavis between Trump and Pence?? Pence, I suppose, as he at least has some government experience. He is not, however, a nice man at all. He is basically a religious fanatic who has a goal of overturning Roe v Wade. He does not like women, and thinks the LGBT community needs to be "cured" and that abortion should be utterly outlawed (although he will compromise with "illegal after the heartbeat can be heard or at 6 weeks pregnant"), which pretty much means no woman will be able to get an abortion. He also wants Planned Parenthood gone, along with contraception access for women. He's basically a caveman with a suit and a cross.

GingerIvy · 10/02/2017 08:57

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sunnyhills · 10/02/2017 08:59

Liking the thread title.

Does anyone else think that Trump sounded quite moderate in that CNN clip ?
edition.cnn.com/2017/02/09/politics/travel-ban-9th-circuit-ruling-immigration

There was even a grammatical modifier in there ! " in my opinion "

Or am I clutching at straws ?

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