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The most unreported thread ever. Trump thread 9

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amispartacus · 07/02/2017 22:23

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2847535-Week-3-What-will-this-week-bring-Trump-thread

There are loads of other threads. But MN aren't highlighting them. Why not? I demand to know.

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SanFranBear · 09/02/2017 13:40

This was Senator McCains response

Think it says it all, to be honest.

The most unreported thread ever. Trump thread 9
PausingFlatly · 09/02/2017 13:40

Shock at the orange one's comments on McCain.

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 13:43

Just some info on McCain.

He became a naval aviator, flying ground-attack aircraft from aircraft carriers. During the Vietnam War, he was almost killed in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In October 1967, while on a bombing mission over Hanoi, he was shot down, seriously injured, and captured by the North Vietnamese. He was a prisoner of war until 1973. McCain experienced episodes of torture, and refused an out-of-sequence early repatriation offer. His war wounds have left him with lifelong physical limitations.

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 13:49

Very scary shit. Here's a bit more detail. I cannot believe Trump thinks he has more military "know how" than this man.

Prisoner of war
McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[34][35] McCain fractured both arms and a leg ejecting from the aircraft,[36] and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Trúc Bạch Lake.[34] Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[34] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hỏa Lò Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[35]

Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a high-ranking admiral.[37] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[38][39]

McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[34] By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his gray hair turned white as snow,[34] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[40] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[41] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[42]

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 13:49

In mid-1968, John S. McCain Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[44] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[45] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[44] McCain turned down the offer; he would only accept repatriation if every man taken in before him was released as well. Such early release was prohibited by the POW's interpretation of the military Code of Conduct: To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[34]

In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[46] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[34][46] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, stopped by guards.[34] Eventually, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[34] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[47][48] Many American POWs were tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements;[49] virtually all of them eventually yielded something to their captors.[50] McCain subsequently received two to three beatings weekly because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[51]

McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[52] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[53] while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[54] McCain and other prisoners cheered the U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, viewing it as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[48][55]

Altogether, McCain was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973.[56] His wartime injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[57]

SanFranBear · 09/02/2017 13:50

I should add - that response was to Angry Spice. I would imagine he has some #alternativethoughts on how to respond to the Donald.

I just cannot get over how POTUS uses personal attacks on his official account. Hell - we get deleted on MN for that!!

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 13:54

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..Ryan died on a winning mission ( according to General Mattis), not a "failure." Time for the U.S. to get smart and start winning again!

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GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 13:55

I don't always agree with McCain, but I could never have gone through what he did.

MsHooliesCardigan · 09/02/2017 14:00

Why is he so full of hate? He's had such a privileged life but he just hates everything and everyone. What has happened to him to make him like this?

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:03

I don't know. He's certainly tweeting like mad today.

blueskyinmarch · 09/02/2017 14:06

You would imagine the POTUS would have better things to do other than tweeting such rabid bilge? It smacks of someone sitting bored and ill in a doctors waiting room not someone who is supposed to be a world leader. It's all just so bizarre.

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:07

So when Patriot Barbie told people on TV to go buy Ivanka Trump's clothing, she actually was violating the law.

Chris Lu ‏*@ChrisLu44*

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This is the federal ethics law that @KellyannePolls just violated
cc: @OfficeGovEthics @jasoninthehouse

CaveMum · 09/02/2017 14:08

Re Gorsuch's comments I think he had to speak out if he is ever going to maintain credibility.

He's also setting out his store as not being a yes man, which raises him slightly in my estimation.

Of course, Trump can't bear to be criticised so we've had the customary throwing toys out of the pram.

lingle · 09/02/2017 14:08

maybe DT could come on this thread and we could keep him occupied for four years?

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:09

He also told some interviewers on TV something about bringing down the EU.

The Guardian ‏*@guardian* 36s36 seconds ago
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Ted Malloch claims cast doubt on his credibility, says leading MEP

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CaveMum · 09/02/2017 14:11

Apparently Trump's schedule is showing him as going to Florida again this weekend.

On the one hand hurrah that he won't be actively doing much politics, but on the other I'm pretty sure most President's stick around and do actual work, not swan off to play golf every week.

lingle · 09/02/2017 14:12

not swan off to play golf every week.

I wish he'd sod off and play golf all week

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:13

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Kellyanne Conway: "Go buy Ivanka's stuff, is what I would tell you...I'm going to give it a free commercial here..." www.facebook.com/newsandguts/posts/211736489231327

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:14

RE: Florida weekends - not to mention that it costs a fortune security wise - reportedly millions.

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:19

Trump's sons are tweeting to encourage women to cut up their Nordstrom's cards and plan boycotts and such. FFS! It's clothing, shoes, and handbags people. Get a fucking grip!

MockTurtleSoup · 09/02/2017 14:24

The apple never rots far from the tree......

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:35

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Meghan McCain is getting grief for defending her father from the same people who say it is Trump's duty to defend his daughter. Confusing.

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:44

Manchin - only Dem who voted for Sessions. Manchin's daughter is being investigated by the DOJ for the Epi-pen gouging. Favours being exchanged?

GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 14:56

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GingerIvy · 09/02/2017 15:08

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