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The official Trump thread. It's true. It is. No it's not. The President said it is

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amispartacus · 31/01/2017 23:05

Because 24 hours is a long time in US politics

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2841897-Trump-thread-6

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CaveMum · 01/02/2017 09:55

Marking my spot to catch up after work.

For those with an interest in how you go about filling a Supreme Court seat, I highly recommend you watch the West Wing episode "The Supremes".

It is perfect in every way, my favourite episode of the entire show.

"I love her. I love her mind. I love her shoes!" Grin

Lweji · 01/02/2017 09:58

If prejudice and bans are a recruitment tool for the Jihadis, then standing against them is a recruitment tool for tolerance.

Exactly.

I have some Muslim friends and contacts around the world, mainly through work.

And I've only seen the people I link with in social media to stand up for this type of discrimination.
We all come together in relation to this, as well in relation to other issues in the countries they live in.

cozietoesie · 01/02/2017 09:59

I find it very difficult to look at that Untergang parody, ami. It hits a bit too close for comfort.

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:00

If prejudice and bans are a recruitment tool for the Jihadis, then standing against them is a recruitment tool for tolerance

That's a great point - the 'yes, but'.

If someone is saying that so and so a group is dangerous, look at their actions - then it can be countered with 'But look at these people and how they are standing up'.

It's 2 sides of the same coin - that's why people need to stand up and be counted.

I remember a quote from Rogue One.

'How does it feel seeing the Imperial Flags everywhere'
'Sometimes it's easier not to look up'

And it probably is. If it's not about you and you don't want to get involved, it probably is.

But I've read Sophie Scholl's biography. I've read and seen the effects of hate. I know that people need to stand up and in WW2 and other conflicts, standing up can come at a price.

We are not there. I don't want to go there. I like here. It's not perfect but it's better than the road we are going down.

Trump did not like Rogue One.

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LaLaLolly · 01/02/2017 10:04

People in real life keep giving me the argument that Obama kept the US under war for more days than any another argument and that he sold more guns than any other.

I feel like screaming.

Lweji · 01/02/2017 10:06

Interesting reality check for those opposing immigration, particularly those descendants of recent immigrants, and, also particularly, against certain types of immigrants:

www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-jewish-irish-asian-italian-friends-joshua-brown?trk=eml-email_feed_ecosystem_digest_01-hero-0-null&midToken=AQHyc29xVyiFcw&fromEmail=fromEmail&ut=30Oztri2oqVnA1

woman12345 · 01/02/2017 10:07

The intended "target" of protests is the government, or those in power. But with worldwide media coverage, they are not the only ones who see it
brilliant, inspiring thought and true.

This manufactured 'religious war' might as well be the crusades to the under 25s of all nationalities and faiths across the world.
Social media is where they live, and sometimes it's a much wiser place!

Natsku · 01/02/2017 10:14

Checking in, in sadness and disbelief and rage but also pride and hope in seeing all the protests.

Destinysdaughter · 01/02/2017 10:17

Steve Bannon has suggested America will be at war with China in the next few years. And so it begins...

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-steve-bannon-china-south-sea-war-chinese-us-president-special-counsellor-a7556546.html

shovetheholly · 01/02/2017 10:19

Sheesh. Just when I think Steve Bannon has found a new depth to which humanity can sink, he goes lower.

I don't think it's unfair to say that he's one of the most dangerous men in the world right now.

Lweji · 01/02/2017 10:22

Wasn't Trump a dove, as opposed to Hillary's hawkishness? It makes me really angry.

woman12345 · 01/02/2017 10:23

Prevalence of guns in US could work both ways, though.

Peregrina · 01/02/2017 10:27

A US war with China? This is going to give TM or her successor a headache. She wants trade deals from China too. Which side will she rush in to support?

PausingFlatly · 01/02/2017 10:29

Lweji thank you so much for that article on LinkedIn, "To my Jewish, Irish, Asian and Italian friends"

It's an amazing tour of US anti-immigrant cartoons and legislation through the last 150 years - anti-Chinese, Italian, Irish, Jewish...

squishysquirmy · 01/02/2017 10:29

both, Peregrina. Sad Good news for BAE systems and the UK defence industry...
That's my hunch anyway.

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:30

Prevalence of guns in US could work both ways, though

I've always wondered in a civil war where people get guns from. At least in the USA, you can just go to your local gun store and get them...

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woman12345 · 01/02/2017 10:30

And hand holding with the orange one will have gone down a treat in Beijing.
Still we've only just signed a deal to build a nuclear power station with them, and simultaneously got rid of Euratom. What could go wrong.

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:31

Which side will she rush in to support

She could go to the EU and trade with them....

I can imagine there are a lot of headaches in Whitehall and around the world at the moment.

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woman12345 · 01/02/2017 10:31

uhu amisparticus oh yes.

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:34

Good news for BAE systems and the UK defence industry

Checks share price.

The official Trump thread. It's true. It is. No it's not. The President said it is
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woman12345 · 01/02/2017 10:35

Would that be because they expect to have a good sales year?

CaveMum · 01/02/2017 10:37

Hmm, BIL is a contractor at Lockheed Martin. I might see what his cohorts are saying.

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:40

If you don't like the word 'ban', don't use it...Sean

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Lweji · 01/02/2017 10:48

It's just locker room talk. He didn't really mean ban. Wink

amispartacus · 01/02/2017 10:50

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the Queen's weekly audience with May.

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