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The official Trump thread. It's true. It is. No it's not. The President said it is

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amispartacus · 31/01/2017 23:05

Because 24 hours is a long time in US politics

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2841897-Trump-thread-6

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GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 15:42

And that strike that killed the 8yo American girl? Obama vetoed it. Trump personally approved it.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki

woman12345 · 01/02/2017 15:43

OhYouBadBadKitten
thanks is that 9am US embassy, next Wednesday?
and 11am on Saturday 4th there too?

Lweji · 01/02/2017 15:45

Yes, very different situation when they got Osama. AFAIK, they spared the children and women there (most men too).

Not that the US under Obama was 100% guilt free on the children killing. Particularly with drones, IIRC. But, still... (and we all know that some drone use didn't go through Presidential approval - or was it only on Homeland? Wink)

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 15:48

lweji the rule is that there must be a democrat present for votes. The democrats had therefore deliberately not attended so that the vote could not be held.

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 15:49

Except it was decided the rule could be ignored and they voted anyway

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 15:51

I am appalled at this. And baffled why people in the US are not more alarmed at all the rules being broken.

PausingFlatly · 01/02/2017 15:53

OK, rather more on Neil Gorsuch from the Independent: Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch criticised anti-apartheid student protesters

Including a page apparently from his Columbia University yearbook.

Gorsuch's entry includes a little quote from Henry Kissenger: "The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer."

Jolly good.

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 15:55

I longish, but quite interesting article on and interview with Patriot Barbie in Cosmopolitan.

www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8648002/kellyanne-conway-interview-career/

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 15:58

I agree ginger. This is a sign that there is now no respect for the senate at all and they will just push through whatever they want with complete disregard for the rules. First you cut out the democrats, then you push out any GOP that start to disagree. Then you just have the Trump gang and a senate-for-show. There are no checks and balances left within the government framework.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:02

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amispartacus · 01/02/2017 16:02

There are no checks and balances left within the government framework

Uphold the Constitution. Isn't that what the USA is all about?

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GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:03

I fear we are at a point of no return here. He basically controls all 3 arms of the government now.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:04

The Constitution is just a piece of paper. The value it holds depends on how well we as a country hold the values ourselves. And it's faltering badly.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:06

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 53s53 seconds ago
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UN experts says Donald Trump's 'Muslim ban' contravenes international law

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration-torture-refugees-un-human-rights-a7557386.html

This will lead to one of two things.
1- Trump will ignore, and UN will do nothing, thus endangering the UN in the eyes of the world at large.
2- Trump will ignore, the UN will sanction, and Trump will break from the UN. Chaos.

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 16:06

It's horrible having that sinking feeling when you have suspected something was coming and then it happens.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:07

Simon Schama ‏*@simon*_schama Jan 31
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Ha'aretz reporting US embassy in Israel reassures 145,000 Jews born in Iraq and Iran of exemption from ban. Which means it IS a Muslim ban

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:08

AFP news agency ‏*@AFP* 19s20 seconds ago
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#UPDATE Vatican voices "concern" over Trump's executive orders to build a wall on US-Mexican border and travel ban

Interesting. The Vatican is kind of a law unto themselves. They don't comment on stuff like this that often, do they?

ZebraOwl · 01/02/2017 16:09

Apparently the Pentagon is making a list of Iraqi nationals who will be allowed to enter the U.S. despite the ban: www.buzzfeed.com/nancyyoussef/the-pentagon-is-making-a-list-of-iraqis-who-are-still-able-t?utm_term=.nfNaRPBX7Y#.nfNaRPBX7Y

Is it just me, or does the fact they're having to scramble to do this just emphasise the fact Trump pulled this EO out of his fat arse without consulting anyone who knows anything about this stuff? This is the only time I've heard Daddy say he's really glad to have taken early retirement over a specific thing. He's joked about it, but he was deadly serious this time. And he was working for Her Majesty's Government, he'd not have been stuck in the centre of the shit-show even. (Well, there's a chance he'd have been one of the people to be sent to the States, assuming we're sending some. Which we almost certainly are, albeit possibly not right now. Am willing to bet it won't, Johnson's assurances to the contrary, involve anyone who'd be on that bastarding Banned List if they weren't also a British national. We don't like to Make Things Awkward, especially when dealing with the Americans. Blech...)

More amusingly, it seems some people took the Daily Mash article saying HMQ had announced she could legally kill Trump with a sword (www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/legally-i-can-kill-him-queen-confirms-20170131121313) seriously/thought it was real: www.buzzfeed.com/kassycho/no-queen-elizabeth-did-not-say-she-can-legally-kill-donald-t?utm_term=.sb24W7BQZo#.sb24W7BQZo

Am starting to wonder if this week-long ECG, while it won't have captured any useful data because I Have Lurgy & have been in bed almost the entire time since it was fitted, might provide the first record of a human heart actually breaking. (Seemingly I have a sudden urge to write some super angsty poetry. Apparently I'm regressing to being a teenager, yes. I blame Trump. It seems wholly reasonable to make him a universal scapegoat figure. Break a fingernail? Trump. Bad weather? Trump. [Sadly, give it a wee while & his environmental policies mean that'll probably be justified...] Bad hair day? Trump. [TBF, entirely possible his bonkers barnet subliminally influencing/corrupting yours]. Anything goes....)

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:10

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Roussette · 01/02/2017 16:11

God he is a child isn't he... he is unhinged.

Latest tweet....
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Everybody is arguing whether or not it is a BAN. Call it what you want, it is about keeping bad people (with bad intentions) out of country!"

You called it a Ban more than once you fat pillock.

Bad people with bad intentions .. can he not talk properly?

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:13

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Anyone notice how #trump hasn't said anything about his ratings last night? #BLACKOUTtrump was trending #1 last night #THERESISTANCE is real

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GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:13

Scott Dworkin ‏*@funder* 48s49 seconds ago
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.@TheDemCoalition will be doing a push to #BLACKOUTtrump for every major address he gives. #theresistance #resist #scotus #trumpleaks #amjoy

BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 16:13

might provide the first record of a human heart actually breaking

Oh god zebra I know you meant that lighted hearted, but it actually almost has me in tears. It is so sad and poignant. I can imagine the very scene in a slightly artsy French film about this whole business.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:18
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The official Trump thread. It's true. It is. No it's not. The President said it is
GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 16:18

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