Big fat dirty liars

[jcne]

Please discuss, for and against, all are welcome, the (not to load the question but...) the bastard fuckwittery claim of:

"I wasn't lying, you just didn't ask"

Expected from an estate agent.

Pathetic from someone who's meant to care about you.

Depends who said it and what it is about

A partner that's been shagging someone that says it- Not Right

Buying a new car, well if you didn't ask the question about whatever the problem is technically it's not a lie

DH: Why did you lie about getting another handbag

Me: I didn't lie you didn't ask

Perfectly acceptable (also works in reverse for him buying copious amounts of Haribo)

DH: Why did you lie about sleeping with Tom Hardy?

Me: yeh right! I didn't lie, you didn't ask

Clearly unacceptable. Some omissions of truth aren't a big deal, others are life changing.

The devil is in the detail as they say.

Excellent point about the acceptability of handbags, Pebble.

I could give more detail but everyone would say

📣L📣T📣B📣

And, lmao, bless my heart, I would if I could.

hecate your examples are brilliant.
Can you provide an "innocent" example?

Hecate you sound like a hot lawyer 🤓

Letting you believe something they know isn't true, is lying by omission.
So not telling you they cheated for example, is "lying" to you because they know you expect and trust them to be faithful. They know they haven't been faithful, you don't have to ask "have you ever cheated on me?" and them say "No" for it to be a lie.

Hecate

jcne Isn't lying by omission counted as lying in Knobsville?

op what was it you didn't ask?

So we can all learn precision question asking

Love the loudhailers btw!

I didnt ask whether my bf/father of my foetus (who is an alcoholic and had told me he has given up drinking) went out drinking with a girl he used to know when he finished work at 1am on a week night.

Silly me. Such a dumb dumb.

Miss and DJ yes lying by omission sums it up quite nicely doesn't it

FWIW I don't think he's cheating, but he is nonetheless a lying alcoholic and I'm stuck with him 🔫

Well maybe he's cheating. How the fuck would I know he's a liar!

To be fair, you don't know that.

These are what are now termed 'alternative facts'.

thesnow lollllll

I almost missed reading this thread, thought it was about politicians.

You'll have to ask him "have you lied about anything else" in which case he'll probably lie, but at least you asked ... and you're not stuck with him

Isn't that just 'lying by omission'? As in - lying?

Hiding stuff because your partner would get mad,upset,angry etc is lying.
Not mentioning random,innocent stuff is not lying.

OP besides the time of day and his drinking partner,is he supposed to be off drink? Why do you feel you can't leave?
Let's face it if you asked him every night ..have you been drinking?with whom? Etc... he'd call you controlling and paranoid. You can't win..

Why do you think you are stuck with this shady, duplicitous alcoholic ?

Does he seem like a good role model for your dc ?

I guess the rules of truth and purposely withholding information are VERY different in LiarsVille...

The-supposed-to-be-nice-guy = tells little white lies to spare your feelings under the guise he doesn't want to hurt you and the lie was for your own good. (He basically can't be arsed to deal with your emotions)

The-pathological-liar-guy = 90% of what spews from his mouth is a lie. Little white ones to stinking big black ones, they slip of his tongue with ease. He has the gift of the gab and believes his own shit.

The-addict-guy = wasn't always a liar. Once the addiction took hold he'd say anything to get his fix. Nothing else matters.