To wonder why it's OK - even considered a positive thing- to give girls names that are traditionally considered boy's names but....

[BertrandRussell]

.......not the other way round?

Often the shortened version can be unisex....Sam, Lou, Alex...
In fact I think there was a song about it in the 60s!

I know a Lee in his mid 20s

I'm 26 and went to school with several Lees. I also know a 20yo called Lee.

A previous boss was a female called Lee, which I found odd because I only know females who spell it Leigh.

Why? Because the worst thing you can call a man is woman.

I was about to jump in about the name Mackenzie, but a few others got there first and cleared it up

Boys baby clothes and toys are never pink.

Some adult men wear pink, but I am prepared to be they are in a pretty small minority.

The female Lee i know spells it Lee but the female Ashley i know it is Ashleigh does the Leigh make it more female?

My DS has a unisex middle name, spelt with the masculine variant. It's also my middle name. I have never been embarrassed thinking it was too masculine when I was growing up and I don't think it's too girly for a boy either.

I think the fact that big sports brands make expensive competition wear in hot pink for men is a pretty good indication that girls' reign over pink is over.

Which sport is that?

There's a footballer that plays for Celtic called Leigh Griffiths, but most other men I know called Lee spell it Lee. That said I know a few women who spell it Lee too.

reuset the current Celtic 3rd kit and Scotland away kit, both football.

Ah, thanks Saor.

I'm married to a Lee!

It's not something like Isabella though is it, cellardoor? Would that be considered too 'girly?

Both my boys actually asked for the pink Celtic kit (well the wee one pointed and clapped) it was DD who wanted the green and white one

MacKenzie should only be a surname.

Stade Français rugby team traditionally include bright pink on their kit

This does not mean that people are now typically putting baby boys in pink, which I think gives a better idea of where people are on the "pink is a gender neutral colour" suggestion. People are horrified by the idea of a boy being mistaken for a girl

How about Beau, very popular for girls, but originally a boys name. That grates on me a bit.

my son is called Alex which is obviously unisex we have never experienced any negative comments.

I don't think it is seen as a positive thing to give girls traditionally masculine names tbh, it looks more like the parents don't know that the name is associated with a child of the opposite gender!

Whether you think gendered names is right or wrong as a concept is up for debate, but I don't see the parents who use names in this way as breaking a stereotype.

i knew quite a few Lee,s when i was growing up but i,m 43 now it was more popular in the 70,s and 80,s i think.

I have a male cousin named Madison. It has been used in my family, on males, for several generations. It was first used on my great(4)-grandfather. It was his mother's surname. It was subsequently passed on to his firstborn son, then his, and so on.

Great(4)-grandfather was born over 200 years before the movie Splash came out, which led to the Madison on girls boom.

Cousin is constantly told he has a girl's name, but he smiles and reminds them the (sur)name is a 'son of' name.

There's a sort of, "Look my daughter's as good as a boy" mentality about giving a girl a boy's name.

I would opt for a gender neutral name, not because I don't think girls' are good enough but because I know there is still discrimination i the world and it gives someone less reason to throw out a CV.