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amispartacus · 30/01/2017 18:52

And it's only been a day since no 5

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:32

God help us, Badgers they'll probably bring out a fucking Commemorative Golly doll or something. Offensive bloody shits.

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 18:33

A proposal by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) would have given investigators 72 hours to prove that someone on a watch or no-fly list has ties to terrorism. If not, the suspect would be allowed to purchase a gun.

In the most closely watched measure, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) proposed an amendment that would bar any individual on a terrorism watch list from purchasing a firearm. That failed 47 to 53.

A separate measure Monday to tighten background checks also failed -- similar to what happened after a gunman killed 20 elementary school children and six adults in December 2012 in Newtown.

The House has shown even less urgency in considering gun control measures in the aftermath of the Orlando shooting.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) has suggested taking a slower approach and studying the best legislative response.

"We've got to get it right," Ryan said Sunday on "Meet the Press." "We're going to take a deep breath and make sure that this is done correctly."

The Senate votes came the same day that the Supreme Court turned away another challenge to state laws banning the sale of rapid-fire assault weapons, a victory for gun control supporters.

This is when the Democrats dared to suggest that people might want to check if someone was on a terrorist watch list or no fly list before buying semi automatic guns

But, at least superficially, the NRA appears to have taken a sensible position on the issue. While prohibiting suspected terrorists from accessing firearms might seem like a no-brainer, such legislation would ostensibly give the Executive branch the unilateral authority to revoke the constitutional rights of American citizens without due process. Remember, we are not talking about individuals who have been convicted of terrorism, but those merely identified as suspects, often on the basis of limited evidence. Last year, the Intercept published a 2013 document outlining the Obama administration’s criteria for labeling an individual a suspected terrorist. Those official guidelines stipulated that “concrete facts” weren’t required to make that designation. While one might trust President Obama to exercise that authority responsibly, the fact that Donald Trump has a better-than-zero chance of becoming our next president should alert progressives to the hazards of unchecked executive power

Apparently though Donald Trump is 'coming for your guns'

Donald Trump is coming for your guns — if you’re a suspected terrorist, anyway. On Wednesday, the GOP nominee announced that he would push the NRA to support a ban on firearm sales to anyone on the terror watch list.

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:38

Waste of time. How many terrorists pop along to the local gun shop, slap some cash on the counter and ask for a gun? They steal it, buy it illegally, or someone provides it for them.

What they need is overall gun control, but there's no way. The NRA would have kittens.

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 18:38

Someone noted to me, Ginger, that in the current climate in the States, there is a 'Blacks are our guys' mood. (It's other races that are in difficulty.) I should imagine that it could be quite ........ordinary. As these things go.

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:42

Simon Schama ‏*@simon*_schama 3h3 hours ago
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Ha'aretz reporting US embassy in Israel reassures 145,000 Jews born in Iraq and Iran of exemption from ban. Which means it IS a Muslim ban

merrymouse · 31/01/2017 18:45

Anyone else listening to the 'podsave America' podcast?

itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/pod-save-america/id1192761536?mt=2&i=380588202

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:46

cozie With Bannon's white supremacist history? I'd not recommend ANY minority get complacent.

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 18:47

You know people are saying that there are countries that exclude Jews - so where's the complaints?

The same countries treat women appallingly, LGBT people appallingly. I have been ashamed we trade with some of them, sell them guns and do deals with them - despite their appalling human rights record. I have protested about that before but the Government does not give a shit

It saddens me that the USA is on that same list. Countries which treat minorities differently.

The USA is already on a travel advisory warning for LGBT people. It has poor company.

That's how I answer people who say 'but what about'. Because I have given a shit for years about Middle Eastern countries who we trade with.

And now the USA is on the list too.

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:47

They are focusing on the refugees and Muslims NOW.... but what's next? Then they start looking WITHIN the country.

BigBadgers · 31/01/2017 18:48

Ah, so they are going to have a series of events to look appalled at how shocking it was that a minority was horrendously pursecuted while actively putting in place policies that pursecute minorities. Awesome.

originalmavis · 31/01/2017 18:48

Start kicking out US citizens who are Muslim?

BigBadgers · 31/01/2017 18:51

I know Spartacus. You would have thought the 'land of the free' might be aiming a bit higher then to be on a par with a bunch of middle eastern countries with dubious claims to democracy and human rights at best.

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 18:51

I don't think he's long for power. And he has another target now while he is there.

originalmavis · 31/01/2017 18:53

Whose that then? I thought he had it in for everyone's?

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:54

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The Mt Rushmore of resistance to Trump is now all women--AG Yates, Judges Donnelly, Dein, Burroughs, Brinkema. @TheLastWord 10pm

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 18:56

Oren Segal ‏*@orensegal* 1h1 hour ago
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Here we go again! Bomb threats at Jewish Community Centers being reported in several states today www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jewish-Community-Center-Bomb-Threat-Evacuation-New-Jersey-Livingston-New-York-Upstate-412296793.html@ADL_National

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 18:56

Could someone remind me what the VP's inclinations are? (He's been pretty low profile in all of this, so far.)

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 18:58

Best way to screw with Trump supporters minds is to remind them that they live in a country with many Muslims in who can easily buy guns. It's their constitutional right.

Then remind them that lone wolves such as Richard Reid and the 7/7 bombers are home grown and easily radicalised.

Just keep calmly mentioning that.

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 19:00

Washington Post ‏*@washingtonpost* 2m2 minutes ago
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Trump administration circulates more draft immigration restrictions, focusing on protecting U.S. jobs

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-circulates-more-draft-immigration-restrictions-focusing-on-protecting-us-jobs/2017/01/31/38529236-e741-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.a8a37d833cec

originalmavis · 31/01/2017 19:03

Just say "the Muslim murderer Tahmoon M'achhhv'ai" oops thst should read "that white Christian murderer, Timothy McVey"

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 19:05

cozie he hates gays and thinks they should be converted, he hates abortion and wants it banned after a heartbeat can be heard or 6 wks. He wants Roe v Wade overturned. He is a religious nut.

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 19:05

Then remind Trump supporters that he has made the USA much more dangerous.

Just to remind people of the thoughts out there.

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 19:07

sorry - didn't mean to be offensive - LGBT. I couldn't think of the letters because I had a 7yo trying repeatedly to spell a word to me out loud and my brain was imploding.

originalmavis · 31/01/2017 19:08

Oh that is precious! I hope he really is ex head of special branch!

wheresthewine36 · 31/01/2017 19:09

Place marking. Nothing to add except Holy Shit.

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