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To want him to be excited? Interested? Give a damn?

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SanitysSake · 28/01/2017 13:56

I won't lie, my relationship has been pretty bad since finding out I was expecting. The partner took the best part of 4.5 months to finally accept and come round to the fact that this was happening, after originally doing everything to suggest we should terminate. The stress and hurt endured in these first few months was horrendous, but things have evened out a bit.

As my belly is really pronouncing itself now (25 +5) and the baby is incredibly active, I am often found to be squealing with shock/horror/fear and delight at all the new things I'm experiencing. We have been told our baby is going to be tall and was practically impossible to pin down during the scan because of the level of activity.

The only thing that is getting me down, is that my partner will make a single reference to the baby that's coming perhaps just once a day. There will be few to no attempts to touch my belly and when I invite him to either look at my belly or touch it because the baby is particularly active; he's just not bothered and says things like 'Yes, I've felt it before, you know!' - Like it's got old already... Or 'It feels different for you inside than it does for me on the outside.' This is making me feel very very sad.

I know money is a bit of an issue at the moment and he's working very long hours. But he ends up having to do these hours because he's not very good at getting up and at it and planning his days effectively. Not that I could ever tell him this, as Ive been unemployed for some time and now I'm pregnant, can't get a job - because who is going to employ someone who is 6 months pregnant?

The heartbreaking thing for me, is that I want to be excited. After the first horrendous months, I want to embrace what's happening and start to plan and perhaps get a few small bits in preparation. I haven't got a single thing (not that I know what I need). Not even a singular baby-gro or teddy. He has said 'it's too early'.. Like some dealer of doom. That perhaps the baby won't come/survive. That in some ways he's still in denial and the only time he'll be 'fit' for it, is when the baby appears. I know he's very single-minded in the fact that he can only focus on one thing at a time, else he becomes overwhelmed; so his work and how tired he feels is the most important and only thing.

It broke my heart yesterday when I saw you could get 4D scans in a very local clinic and said 'Ooh, look, do you think we should get one of these done to see baby's face?' and he shrugged impassively and said 'What for?'

I have two ruptured discs in my back, De Quervains in both wrists and suspected SPD. I'm trying my best to be upbeat through all this and still have space in my heart and head for a little joy at what is coming.. But with his consistent dismissiveness (for example, when my face fell nearly in tears after he said 'I've felt it before!' he replied with 'Oh come on now, don't go there'.. rubbishing my feelings) - I feel very lonely and alone in all this. There are days when I think I'd be better off doing this on my own. But I don't want to. I do love him. He's making me very sad and robbing me of the joy I want to feel.

Has anyone experienced the same?... Can someone tell me that it might get better when the baby comes along? How do I get him to invest and be interested in the meantime? Perhaps see how it matters that he takes an interest and that once in a weekend, rather than sleeping or slobbing because he's tired or hungover, he might himself suggest we go and buy our first baby bits together - something? Anything?

Any experience and advice gratefully received x

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Notsure1234 · 28/01/2017 14:46

My first was planned but dh wasn't interested in the pregnancy at all. He is the most amazing dad to our ds and thier bond is incredible but even that took a while.

I admit to feeling a bit sad that he didn't want to feel kicks etc but just accepted that's the way he is and it was fine

SanitysSake · 28/01/2017 14:46

We live in a town where I have no friends or family. Nor does he, really. Largely chosen because it's commutable into London. Sadly, I don't have anyone around me telling me anything supportive or kind or interested really. I don't have any family with which to speak of. My 2 best friends ask how it's going, but they have their own lives and are too far away to pop round. So, very much doing this on my own which is quite sad and scary sometimes. I guess I'm relying on him at times to fill those voids, which I know is often unreasonable.

As for the 'squealing' - maybe the wrong choice of word- which now everyone seems to have latched on to. I am not a squalker and I don't run around the house intermittently screeching like some kind of banshee - for the record - nor am I an 'over-sharer'. But I do, on occasion, when it's particularly powerful, literally say 'yowzers'. I don't think there's anything wrong with that either.

As for the 4D scan, it only came up as there was an offer on near to where we live. It wasn't something Id previously considered, but thought as I'd found it, I'd ask him if he was interested - he clearly wasn't. It was more his response to it that determined my sadness. It was indicative of his response to most things relating to the baby.

I'm hoping like some of you have stated that his interest levels pick up when the baby arrives. As for a plan if it doesn't? I guess there is only one plan. Do it alone...

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RandomMess · 28/01/2017 14:47

The reality is your partner doesn't want a baby, he has decided to stay with you despite the pregnancy. Hopefully with time once the baby is here and tangible to him that relationship will develop.

Lots of us don't have this fairy tale much wanted pregnancy, the harsh reality often one partner isn't that happy about it and spends the time terrified of how the reality is going to be!

JamieXeed74 · 28/01/2017 14:47

Tricky situation. Don't see how leaving him would be any different in the short term from the situation your in now and he does love you. There are a lot of men that don't get excited about an unborn baby so I wouldn't read much into that. But he has told you his true feelings re termination, so you have got to find a way to come to terms with having a baby that the father doesn't want. And pinning your hopes that he will feel differently when the baby is born, 1 year old or later seems to be burying the pain.

dreamofhungarianlanterns · 28/01/2017 14:50

Come and join us on the due May 2017 thread Sanity, it might help you to chat to / read about some folks who are at the same stage as you. Some of us have bought things, others haven't got anything yet and there are plenty of ups and downs shared.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2835628-May-2017-7-Final-months-rapidly-growing-bumps?

Niskayuna · 28/01/2017 14:50

I'm sorry, OP. No, I haven't experienced this. My husband and I tried for a baby, he got excited at the pregnancy test and was thrilled at every appointment and milestone. For quite an understated man, it was very moving and lovely to watch him become a father.

Unfortunately you do not have this. You have a partner who does not want a child and pressured you terminate. I may be a pessimist, but I simply don't think there's any coming back from that.

I know some men who wanted to be fathers and are good when the baby is born still struggle to get too into 4D scans (bit expensive really) and endless belly touches (where the baby stops kicking 70% of the time), but you can still kind of tell that they're still happy to be fathers-to-be.

You don't even have that. You have a man who clearly does not want to be a part of this.

I think you need to start thinking about the future, protecting yourself and your child from trying to love someone who does not love you. The child will not thrive in the presence of a neglectful, ignorant father who declares everything "your job", reminds you endlessly that "you wanted it" and avoids being around you. You will be incredibly vulnerable when the baby is born and it sounds like you will be on your own, doing all the work alone and with no support from him at all.

I counselled a friend in this same scenario - thought she was infertile, she wasn't. 'DH' pressured an abortion, threatened to leave, then didn't. So, brilliant, now she has a sulking bloke around the house who snarls 'fuck off' at anyone who speaks to him, spends any time outside of work in the pub and doesn't remotely interact with or care for the child. They are both suffering, but to play devil's advocate, he made his feelings quite clear when he pressured her for a termination.

Sorry OP. There doesn't seem to be much here to salvage.

Libitina · 28/01/2017 14:52

Isn't there a saying along the lines of a Mother is a Mother from conception, a Father is a Father from the birth of the child?

IYSWIM?

saoirse31 · 28/01/2017 14:53

I can feel for both of you really. The squealing about baby would drive me mad. I wonder esp if you're not working are you all consumed by baby things and not thinking, talking about anything else? That could be a little much.

The 4d scan? Personally unless its medically necessary I wouldnt be paying for it. To my mind its like lots of other things that companies try and sucker pregnant women and couples and parents into spending their money on.

From what you'd say I'd imagine that he'd be fine when baby is actually born like many men and women.

saoirse31 · 28/01/2017 14:56

And look, if it doesn't work out with him, you'll cope, you really will.

I hope all goes really well for you whatever happens.

SanitysSake · 28/01/2017 15:04

I don't want to leave him. He didn't want me to leave (be assured, I offered many times and he was adamant that this was not what he wanted) I want him to engage. He is clearly not going to do that. I know I have to wait until the child is born to see if things improve. Yes, he said everything to 'suggest' a termination, without actually saying it. He says he's ashamed of how he treated me at the start.. but now is 'happy'. This just isn't translating. I also know that in many respects, I will hold on to a bit of resentment at how he treated me in those first few months and how disengaged he's being right now. I feel crushed about it.

For those of you who said it was 'fear'.. I think you might be right, but for the PP (sorry, my brain is like porridge) who said that things didn't change.. That is my biggest fear. However, I had a pretty unhappy childhood and I'd be damned if I'd force that on my own by staying in an unsatisfying and unsatisfactory relationship.

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category12 · 28/01/2017 15:05

It sounds like your whole world is revolving around your pregnancy right now - and given you never expected to have a child, I can understand it somewhat - but it sounds like you might need to look outside yourself a bit.

You sound unsympathetic about his work-hours and if money is an issue, maybe that's part of why he's reluctant to buy things for the baby? Maybe you could look at selling things and using freecycle etc to raise money / find the things you need.

SanitysSake · 28/01/2017 15:05

dreamofhungarianlanterns - thank you so much, I will do that. To share some experiences would be incredibly helpful x

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GruffaloPants · 28/01/2017 15:05

Congratulations.

My DP is very much a devoted Dad, but he felt quite detached from the pregnancies. Certainly didn't want to touch my bump, it freaked him out. Wanted to know everything was ok but didn't find scans particularly emotional (nor did I for that matter). Support me in labour but if I'd said "wait outside and I'll give you a shout when the baby is born" he'd probably have been relieved.

All this was a mixture of worry and squeamishness I think.

Your partner may be freaking out, but he should be considering your feelings too. He sounds pretty insensitive.

problembottom · 28/01/2017 15:09

My BIL acted like this when my DSis unexpectedly fell pregnant for the third time. Accused her of getting pregnant deliberately (not true), said some vile things before completely disengaging when she insisted she wanted to keep the baby. She was devastated and they very nearly split over it.

He's now completely in love with his son and does far more hands on parenting than he did with his two older daughters!

HelsBels5000 · 28/01/2017 15:11

Playing devil's advocate for a moment - maybe you could ease off a little on the mentioning of and talking about and squealing over your pregnancy, just a bit. I imagine he is feeling pretty disengaged and disinterested and the more you over-compensate, the more he is retreating.
My DH was never overly effusive with my 3 pregnancies, but adores our children and is a great father, he tells me it never seems that real until the baby is in his arms.

SheldonCRules · 28/01/2017 15:13

Having been around pregnant women who give a running every time the baby moved, it's exhausting and the height of tediousness.

He didn't want to be a father, you told him you were infertile and then despite knowing he didn't want to go ahead with the pregnancy you over ride him and went ahead anyway. Expecting him to be excited after all that want likely to happen.

I agree with him on the 4d scan, you're not earning so he's having to pay for everything and draws the line at wasting money on scans that are non essential.

He may come round once the baby is born but you need to face up to the reality that he may not.

Bauble16 · 28/01/2017 15:14

I wouldn't worry yet. If his level of interest was the same a couple of months after the birth I'd be concerned. Some people just don't get or aren't into pregnancy joys and issues. My DH loved our unborn daughter, but he doesn't always ask everyday. I know he loves her though as he's concerned for her health. He isn't always excitable, however my ex was and if I'm honest he made a crap Dad. So time will tell really

Runningbutnotscared · 28/01/2017 15:22

You sound like hard work tbh. While your pregnancy is a earth shattering and exciting change to you, it's unlikely to matter that much to other people. Even your dp. If your dp is the only breadwinner in your house (you've neatly not answered those questions) I suspect he is worrying about finance. Any sensible person in his situation would.

There is an idea suggested in American movies that you need a fully decorated nursery ready for bringing baby home, in reality you need very little, and certainly it's a bit premature to be shopping at 25 weeks.

Quite a lot of women have had successful pregnancys before you without needing to squeal and share every little thing that's happening to them.

scottishdiem · 28/01/2017 15:24

I dont know to be honest. How to you make someone interested in something that they had no desire for and did not expect? Just because this is great for you unfortunately mean the same for him. You have to be prepared for this to continue once the baby is born. At some point he might well say that he has been trapped in a situation that he didnt want. The 4d scan thing response should be the lightbulb moment for you.

It may be that he changes when he sees it but remember, this isnt just a shock as it is to you. Its something he didnt want and you know it.

Writerwannabe83 · 28/01/2017 15:25

He didn't want the baby and although he came around to the idea that doesn't mean he has to be excited. It must be very hard to know a big life changing event is about to happen that you aren't even sure you want.

I'm assuming neither of you were using contraception? He should have been wearing condoms if he 100% didn't want children even if both of you thought pregnancy couldn't occur.

When I was pregnant with planned DS1 my DH wasn't interested in the bump at all and would also say, "I've felt it before" if I tried to get him to touch it whilst baby was moving. It did upset me at the time, I couldn't understand why he didn't think it was as amazing as I thought it was, but he later told me he didn't like touching it because it "creeped him out" Grin

I didn't want a 4D scan and nor did DH.

My DH turned out to be an amazing dad, cried as soon as our DS came into the world and so I soon forgot about his disinterest in the bump.

The things is though is that having a baby is extremely hard work and puts a huge amount of strain on a healthy relationship so I think you may need to prepare yourself for a hard road as ultimately this is a baby you wanted and he didn't.

I wish you the best of luck and I hope he does step up when the baby comes - you never know, he may really surprise you Flowers

TheColourIsZebra · 28/01/2017 15:26

Sorry OP but he probably doesn't want a baby.

I have never wanted a baby or been interested in anything baby-related, and I would find it very hard to get excited about having one. Remember it wasn't his choice.

You need to decide what this means for you and your relationship.

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 28/01/2017 15:27

When I read your OP I took it that he never wanted to know anything about the pregnancy or took any interest at all.

Then you started your second post with Maybe every second day, he'll come across as excited and say 'and the little Bean'.. or 'what does tapey (tape worm) desire to eat today?'... and I think that's the best he can give as far as investment goes. Sadly, it's not enough for me. I think how he's reacting sounds quite a lot and I think you're being very hard on him.

You're excited and understandably so given that you never thought you'd have a child. He was very wary at the beginning, again understandable. But I think you're projecting more of his wariness into this than is fair.

Your posts are all about what YOU want it to be like, but it's clear that you aren't going to be happy if it's any other way. Give him some space to do things his way, otherwise you might run the risk of pushing him further away.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/01/2017 15:28

You have no job and no one local. I think you have too much time on your hands. You cannot know what sort of father he will be. Why don't you go and visit some family/friends and have a break from each other. That way you can share your love for your unborn baby with someone else and gain some perspective. It will also give him an chance to miss you. From his POV, financially supporting an unemployed partner, whose pregnancy he didn't want must be a strain. On top of this, you're looking for a lot of emotional support.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 28/01/2017 15:31

All this poor him, He didn't want a baby, but. Let's not forget op didn't get pregnant on her own

unflinchingasaphotograph · 28/01/2017 15:32

Absolutely.

BUT - he isn't actually doing anything wrong.

He just isn't as excited as OP would like.

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