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Or is this PE teacher unreasonable about periods

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 26/01/2017 21:32

DD(15) is doing GCSE PE. Part of this involves 'personal survival' which takes place in local swimming pool.

The school obv need to book this, can't just turn up, but DD queried what would happen if some of the girls had their period at the time. PE teacher (female) replied that they'd obviously have to use a tampon, they can't miss it, can't arrange another day. A few girls told her they didn't use/get on with tampons and she got annoyed saying they'd have to get on with it on the day as no other option.

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Giddyaunt18 · 30/01/2017 20:08

italian Millions of women use tampons safely. The OP hasn't said her DD can't use them. If she tries and there is a problem then obviously that's different. With the info given it's unreasonable to expect the school to work around this.I would be talking this over with my DD, not posting on mumsnet.

Italiangreyhound · 30/01/2017 23:13

Giddyaunt18 some women and girks do not want to use tampons. Whether they can, whether it is safe, they do not wish to! Why do you want others to do something? For the school's convenience?

Haldf the worlds population will bleed once a month for most of their lives. Why is the system set up to not accommodate this fact?

I'm guessing you have not read the posts where women talk of wearing a tampon and s pad and needing to change every half hour.

You are welcome to disagree but I think the practices and attitudes of education and society are set up to accommodate men, not women. And I think that stinks.

Italiangreyhound · 30/01/2017 23:14

And my periods were mostly light, and I wore tampons, and I kept quiet a about my period, as I was taught to! I really hope things will be less shut down for my dd!

HelenaDove · 31/01/2017 02:34

Ilovetorrentialrain Thu 26-Jan-17 22:43:03
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"Sorry but I do think the teacher is right. Periods should not interfere with life unless of course there is a medical reason. The fewer reasons there are for women and girls to be seen as less able the better"

Yep Thats right. Using and twisting feminism to bully young girls will be sure to get them thinking that feminism is for them and interested in getting involved in it............oh wait Hmm

Sixisthemagicnumber · 31/01/2017 02:38

I can't swim when on my period even if I use tampons because I leak horrendously when using even super plus tampons. The pool would be red with my blood.

HelenaDove · 31/01/2017 02:43

Ive had a period every 13 days since Christmas. My latest one ive been bleeding for over a week.

Im 43 Im bloody glad im not at school now.

HelenaDove · 31/01/2017 02:49

Im another one who also finds PIV sex and smears painful My smear is due again later this year and im dreading it.

Have never been able to use tampons.

Italiangreyhound · 31/01/2017 08:55

Sixisthemagicnumber women are equal to men, and we bleed. Trying to 'compete' on men's terms will not make us look equal or more importantly feel equal. We are equal.

We have differences. Because the world is set up to serve men, we come off worse!

The answer is not to twist ourselves into a man's shape but to turn the world into a space that reflects US as well as men!

Sixisthemagicnumber · 31/01/2017 09:16

Being equal doesn't mean that I want to turn a pool red with blood. Ffs, I can't imagine much worse than swimming in somebody else's blood. Men don't have periods.

MelOrSue · 31/01/2017 10:35

I have t read all of the thread and imagine it's already been mentioned but it's easy to buy a pill to reduce/stop your period. It's called Tranexamic acid tablet and you can get them at boots. You could just take a couple an hour or so before you swim and it stops you bleeding even if you have super heavy periods.

The pharmacist would tell you who it's suitable for and if thee are any contraindications etc

MelOrSue · 31/01/2017 11:03

Sorry for typos

xStefx · 31/01/2017 11:08

Some woman are so ignorant on here. My periods prior to having DC were so heavy that a tampon would never ever be enough. School teacher is obv just as ignorant, she clearly needs this pointing out.

Ordinarily · 31/01/2017 12:00

Yes, I realise school staff are extremely busy. However, I believe this should be considered more of a priority than "well you shouldn't have chosen it then". Girls of all ages should have equal access to sport and especially lifesaving skills, including the exams. Surely it's illegal to effectively discriminate against girls in this way?

bloodyteenagers · 31/01/2017 13:54

No actually tranexamic medication doesn't stop all periods. There are also a load of associated side effects with this. For a 15 year old it is recommended under the guidance of a gp.

But why should anyone take medication? I was on this medication for a while so other investigations could be made. Nothing stopped just slowed down to allow iron injections a chance. Wish I never started with it as coming off the meds made things a lot worse. Glad I had an understanding boss and wasn't told to shove a couple of tampax up and get over it.

Italiangreyhound · 31/01/2017 16:22

Sixisthemagicnumber I am so sorry that "... women are equal to men, and we bleed. Trying to 'compete' on men's terms will not make us look equal or more importantly feel equal. We are equal." was not to you. I do apologuise I typed your name in by mistake!

Yes, of course tampons do not work for everyone and it must be very difficult to navigate periods and swimming etc. Sorry, I really was not directing that at you at all. Blush

Italiangreyhound · 31/01/2017 16:27

Totally agree with bloodyteenagers why should teenagers take medication to stop a normal bodily function!.

I don't see why any woman should have to take a pill to stop her periods. If she wants to, fine. But the expectation that girls would do this in order to go for a swim is really (IMHO) appalling.

"The pharmacist would tell you who it's suitable for and if thee are any contraindications etc" But there might be potential issues the pharmacist might not know about.

Reality16 · 31/01/2017 18:31

But why should anyone take medication? as an option for a teenager to get through a GSCE exam I think it's quite a reasonable idea. Females have periods. sometimes, just sometimes, it is not a bad thing to teach responsibility. I am responsible for dealing with my bodily functions. I don't want a dose of the shits at a work conference, I take Imodium. I don't want my period to interrupt a weekend away, I take some pill or another. Teens don't want to fuck up their GSCE, they have choices. Teaching them to say no you can't force me to do anything is stubborn and ridiculous. We should be teaching them how to deal with things that get in the way of our day to day lives/

MelOrSue · 31/01/2017 18:48

But why should anyone take medication?

Look I'm not a Doctor but I know the Medication works brilliantly for me. I have really really heavy pre menopausal periods and if I time the pills right it completely puts my period on hold for a short while - enough time to swim. Smile. No ones saying you should force people to take medication - that would be weird and ridiculous but the medication is a great option for some people. My DDs use the contraceptive pill to stop their periods over exams.

There are contraindications and side effects with lots of medications but that doesn't mean they can't also be useful.

MelOrSue · 31/01/2017 18:51

itslianGreyhound
But the expectation that girls would do this in order to go for a swim is really (IMHO) appalling

umm, nobody on this thread has said they would 'expect' a girl to take this medication so that they could swim. I'm not sure who you are talking about Confused. I clearly suggested it as an option.

BantyCustards · 31/01/2017 18:54

Surely this is sexism?

Reality16 · 31/01/2017 19:17

I don't se who wit is sexism. It's something that relates to females only. So what? If it was penis related no none would be shouting about sexism.

BantyCustards · 31/01/2017 19:21

They wouldn't? Says who?

If periods which are a female issue are stopping a female from an education because no reasonable adjustment are being made then surely that is an issue?

Reality16 · 31/01/2017 19:24

if periods which are a female issue are stopping a female from an education because no reasonable adjustment are being made then surely that is an issue? yes it's an issue. But sexism? No. It's just an issue that needs to be sorted. Reasonable adjustment can come from both sides here as well.

Offred · 31/01/2017 19:31

Well technically reality the school/LA is a public authority and has equalities duties not to discriminate. So yes, could perhaps be illegal discrimination depending on how reasonable what they suggest is.

Italiangreyhound · 31/01/2017 20:29

Reality "Females have periods. sometimes, just sometimes, it is not a bad thing to teach responsibility. I am responsible for dealing with my bodily functions. I don't want a dose of the shits at a work conference, I take Imodium." are you really comparing a normal healthy bodily function like a period with a dose of the shits?

How very sad.

"Teens don't want to fuck up their GSCE, they have choices. Teaching them to say no you can't force me to do anything is stubborn and ridiculous."

please tell me you are not in charge of young adults!

I will completely teach my children they should not be forced to do things that could be unhealthy or unpleasant for them in this way.

"We should be teaching them how to deal with things that get in the way of our day to day lives" Like being female?

Reality you do not need to answer this but may I ask if you are female and if you have a daughter/s?

MelOrSue if you want to take a medication to stop your period so you can go for a swim, be my guest. It is your body. Do I think this is advisable. No. Would I expect young girls to feel they should do this ti fit in with the school PE timetable, No. Should girls be pressurized into this so they can take an exam they have prepared for, No.

Have I had years of infertility and treatment taking all manner of drugs and medicines, yes. I am not ignorant that sometimes we need to do things to get our bodies to work better for us. But I also feel that education should allow for the fact it is normal for 50% of the school population to bleed about 14% of the time.

"umm, nobody on this thread has said they would 'expect' a girl to take this medication so that they could swim. I'm not sure who you are talking about. I clearly suggested it as an option."

No but here is how life works, if you convince a few people to do something, or if they convince themselves, then it becomes the norm and those who do not want to do it, become the awkward ones.

And although people on this thread have not said girls should take medication, the whole thread started on the premise that a teacher implied girls should be willing to use tampons to be able to go for a swim.

"If it was penis related no none would be shouting about sexism." If it was penis related and boys were being treated unfairly I would be sticking up for boys.

Reality the sexism is, for me, that everything is designed from a male perspective unless it is directly targeted at women. So the norm is 'male'. Males do not bleed for a few days/a week a month every month from 12 to 51. Girls and women do (unless ill, underweight or pregnant) so bleeding is seen as a big issue but it is normal. It does mean some women will not be able to swim and may not be able to do sports due to blood loss and perhaps pain etc.

I think if women were designing things they might take these things into consideration.

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