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To be appalled that Piers Morgan has said something I agree with?

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twattymctwatterson · 24/01/2017 22:59

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/piers-morgan-ewan-mcgregor-accuse-paedophile-loving-hypocrite-good-morning-britain-no-show-t2-a7543911.html

Don't get me wrong, Morgan is an utter twunt and his rant about the Woman's March was vile... BUT, McGregor wasn't taking such a principled stance when he was working with/singing the praises of the man who raped and sodomised a child. He's a hypocrite.

Putting my tin hat on now! Confused

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MetalMidget · 25/01/2017 09:02

I'm always amazed that Hollywood still embraces a child rapist, even if he is good at making films.

But then again, I'm amazed that the US has a president who's a self confessed sex predator that makes sexualised comments about his own daughters and misogynistic comments in general (as well as being a massive racist)... and that President is Piers' 'good friend'.

Ewan McGregor is a dick for trying to minimize or ignore Polanski's behaviour in the past, but it doesn't stop Piers Morgan from being an utter wankstain (on a near daily basis).

JoffreyBaratheon · 25/01/2017 09:03

Really? I knew Piers Morgan now hosted some breakfast show or other but would have no clue what its name is.

And it will have been just one brief stop on a lengthy slew of publicity stuff which for many actors - surprisingly - is their least favourite part of their job.

I'd never heard of this show either, just had a vague knowledge he'd got the job doing it. Can utterly believe Ewan MacGregor.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 25/01/2017 09:09

Ewan McGregor's daughters were at a march so its been a personal response he's made. I do agree that working with Roman Polanski is disgusting but I can separate the two issues and I think PM is a bigger arsehole than EM any day of the week.

jasonapple · 25/01/2017 09:13

OP do you really believe that the editor of 2 tabloid newspapers didn't know about Saville?

RedHelenB · 25/01/2017 09:21

I think Piers Morgan knew about phone tapping!!

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 25/01/2017 09:28

He knew about phone tapping, it's in his book. He also allegedly allowed faked photos of prisoners being abused to be published. He's an appalling human being.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 25/01/2017 09:33

He also mentioned phone tapping when he was on Desert Island Discs.

wigglesrock · 25/01/2017 10:14

JerryFerry Roman Polanski raped a child - there's no level at which I can understand that nor wish to.

JerryFerry · 25/01/2017 10:36

I can. And so can a lot of people.

WallisofWindsor · 25/01/2017 10:46

Pierce Morgan a "friend" of that incontinent adulterer in the White House. Puke.

Megatherium · 25/01/2017 10:55

Also who pitches up to a studio without knowing in advance who is interviewing them? a very tedious and obvious publicity stunt for Mcgregor.

Well, I've done it. Admittedly I'm nowhere near McGregor's league, but the fact is that on a magazine type show with a number of presenters you don't necessarily know who is going to do which interview.

PickledCauliflower · 25/01/2017 11:20

McGregor has not just assosociated with Polanski - but spoke out in support of him.
Polanski fled the US before sentencing (after eventually pleading guilty), but when arrested in Switzerland a few years back - numerous Hollywood luvvies voiced their support on the child rapist.
McGregor said he was "shocked and saddened" to hear of his arrest.

He must have been so relieved when the Swiss released him a month later.

The man has evaded justice for 40 years.
I remember the various luvvies speaking out in his defence. I can only imagine that these people are so self obsessed and wrapped up in their "art" that common sense escapes them.

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whatsthecomingoverthehill · 25/01/2017 11:47

The Polanski thing is just weird isn't it. I don't understand why he isn't stigmatised more. It's not just the men who go along with it too.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 25/01/2017 11:48

I can. And so can a lot of people

Seriously? Your not convincing me jerry. Plenty of powerful people in the 60's etc didn't rape young girls.

areyoubeingserviced · 25/01/2017 11:54

Piers Morgan is an arse wipe who needs to stop sucking up to Trump. He is making a complete and utter fool of himself.
You can bet that he knew about Jimmy Saville.

BillSykesDog · 25/01/2017 11:56

I think the point Morgan is making is that the left aren't truly exercised by misogyny and sexism but rather choose to get themselves worked up about it when they can use it as a stick to beat their political opponents with. Hence Bill Clinton, Polanski and Allen are heroes but Morgan is beyond the pale.

It's a hallmark of the repressive. So for example in communist countries those 'in' with the regime would live high on the hog bypassing restrictions on food and other goods with impunity, but if a baker who was known not to be entirely sympathetic to communism slipped a sick neighbour an extra loaf he'd be carted off to a gulag for ten years.

Hence David Cameron and Boris Johnson get a kicking for going to Etonian whilst Blair going to Fettes, Diane Abbot sending her son to City of London school and the other 31% of privately educated Labour MPs are given a comparatively easy ride.

It's just part of an aggressive and pervasive campaign on behalf of the liberal left to scare opponents into silence. One which has become increasingly overt and aggressive recently as they lose their grip.

One which is quite obviously embodied in a wealthy white woman's call to 'blow up the white house' apparently being far more acceptable than someone pointing out that said wealthy white woman isn't at averse to her own odd bit of sexual assault when the fancy takes her.

If only Ian Watkins had been politically active on the left wing he'd probably be a free man today.

Re, Savile. Savile was very similar because he cosied up to the dominant political ideologies of his day. And this included both Thatcherism and New Labour. People will get terribly worked up about how dreadful it was that allowed him to get away with it, but they'll still cheerfully ignore it when their political allies do the same. And whatever distasteful things Trump has done, they're tiny, tiny small fry compared to the things the left are not only prepared to turn a blind eye to, but actually celebrate those who have committed them.

CockacidalManiac · 25/01/2017 11:57

If only Ian Watkins had been politically active on the left wing he'd probably be a free man today.

Well, that's the stupidest thing I'll read today.

CockacidalManiac · 25/01/2017 11:58

Hence David Cameron and Boris Johnson get a kicking for going to Etonian whilst Blair going to Fettes, Diane Abbot sending her son to City of London school and the other 31% of privately educated Labour MPs are given a comparatively easy ride.

That's bollocks too.

CockacidalManiac · 25/01/2017 12:02

Bill what is this straw man 'left' of which you speak? This cohesive mass of lefties that admire Polanski and Woody Allen?

It ain't the liberal left that murders MPs in the streets, and send death threats to those challenging May's approach to Brexit through the courts. Have you ever read the comments below the articles in the DM? Those headbangers are on the left, are they?

alltouchedout · 25/01/2017 12:10

I have never understood why Roman Polanski gets a pass from so many people. Never.
Also, because our surname is very similar to his, we couldn't use the name Roman for any of our sons, even though we both love it. Which is a very minor thing of course but it annoys me
Finding out someone is a Roman Polanski apologist puts me off them right away. So whilst I applaud EM for his stance on Piers Morgan and the Women's Marches, I can't get past his support of a man who drugged and raped a child. And no, I certainly can't separate someone's 'art' from their bad deeds, not when said deeds are so utterly heinous. I won't watch anything by Roman Polanski, because he raped a child and has evaded justice for that for decades.

PeridotPassion · 25/01/2017 12:13

I'm not a fan of PM but I thought he was brilliant talking about McGregor on GMB the other day...had me in stitches. He called him out properly, as McGregor deserved. I think McGregor has just made himself look like a jumped up tit tbh.

BillSykesDog · 25/01/2017 12:56

Bill what is this straw man 'left' of which you speak? This cohesive mass of lefties that admire Polanski and Woody Allen?

Oh whoops! Sorry! I must have completely imagined the slavish adoration, standing ovations and declarations of genius from Hollywood for Polanski, Allen et al. And only in the last few weeks Brad Pitt. A man who only has supervised access to his children, agreed they needed trauma therapy because of his actions which although they fell short of criminal he has admitted involved a drunken argument with his teenage son so serious he accepts he may no longer want contact with him. And his wife is apparently evil for trying to protect her children. Where are their pockets against them? All left wingers. Yet they will demonstrate against Trump and intimidate those who wish to perform against him. How is it a straw man to point out that these people who publicly profess to be left wingers are only motivated to act against misogyny when the perceived misogynist is a right winger.

And what's bollocks about pointing out that the 31% of privately educated Labour MPs get a free ride? I've never seen a meme shared about that the way that Conservative MPs constantly have them shared about their educational background.

I'm sure you'll try and convince me that the Hollywood elite who fete Polanski and Allen and Pitt are died in the wool Republicans but we all know that's bollocks.

And it wasn't the Republicans who nominated Hillary Clinton despite her close association with a dyed in the wool misogynist who treated a number of women terribly, was found guilty of rape in a civil court and threw Monica Lewinsky to the (left wing) wolves just for telling the truth.

Oh, and Jimmy Savile was regularly entertained at Chequers by the Labour government.

So could you please explain to me how these demonstrable acts of hypocrisy which were indisputably committed by those on the left are in any way a 'straw man'? Because I think denial and rewriting history to suit your own political ends is far more of a 'straw man' than accurately pointing out blatant acts of hypocrisy on the part of the left. A march for women would have been far more appropriately aimed towards Clinton who has a record of minimising sexism or sexual violence and victim blaming when it comes to her spouse.

And the comment about Ian Watkins was sarcasm. Because his crimes aren't a million miles away from Polanski's but apparently are much more acceptable.

Megatherium · 25/01/2017 13:11

I would suggest however if anyone is a delicate flower and prone to flouncing off if the interviewer holds different views to your own, then they should find out in advance who is interviewing

But that's what he did, didn't he? And it wasn't just a matter of holding different views, but holding abhorrent and misogynist views.

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