To think it's common sense to let a w/c user have the w/c spot

[SparkyStar84]

I've just seen the ruling on disabled people getting priority in disabled spots on buses. Isn't that common sense. What kind of person would deny a w/c user the space because 'pushchair'?
I'm a w/c user it makes it easier in a way to get about with children, though I know some w/c users still have a buggy.
This is about the parents who refuse to move, when asked, by someone who might have an appt or something important to get too. Not saying the parent doesn't. But isn't that the point of foldable buggies over great big travel systems?
It just bugs me that people have had to leave the bus because a parent wouldn't move. As a parent with kids of many ages, also remembering times gone by, the purpose of easy foldable buggies is that you can decamp when on the bus.
Do you think it's an issue that buses need to provide buggy spaces too?

Livia totally know where you are coming from on that point. I would be shit scared too if put in a situation like that!

I don't know how to hold a child and would worry about dropping him/her.

I would also panic in case he/she threw up on me or something.

It doesn't make me an evil person. Nor does it make me worthy of the patronising bollocks.

Take your own fucking grip

And if it only takes a millisecond then that implies it's far easier than people are making out.

My neighbour has a lawnmower. It is their lawnmower. They worked hard to acquire the lawnmower and it belongs to them by right. This is a fact.

They are kind enough to let me borrow the lawnmower when they do not need to use it. This is a courtesy

When they need to use the lawnmower they get to use it because it is theirs. That may mean I need to make alternative arrangements to cut my lawn or cut my lawn slightly later than I had hoped. But it is their lawnmower so I give it back.

There may be times when this is not convenient for me, but because I understand that it is their lawnmower I give it back.

I do not try to set out why I think that I have a greater need than them at that time for the lawnmower, because it is theirs not mine and I understand that I need to give it back when they require it.

I don't have a lawn

Of course you arnt evil.

Dramatic and ridiculous maybe and perhaps need to woman up but no not evil.

It takes seconds to flat a buggy.

My 17 year old dd who had no interest in children at all and is scared of her nephew can if needs be hold him.

It's life as a human being. Sometimes you are required as a decent human being to help a fellow human being and not bleat 'but I don't know how and they may be sick on me*

Women In Syria are shit scared

Don't think asking you to help a fellow woman on a bus in Blighty is in that bracket really is it Bubble ?

Women in Syria have a shitload more to worry about that being unable or unwilling to fold their buggies.

Not sure why you have such an issue with two posters expressing reluctance to hold a stranger's child. Yes I probably would if it was life or death but someone having to fold a buggy isn't.

You are the one being dramatic and rather twattish.

And if you are focusing on whether someone would hold a child, aren't you rather missing the point of the thread?

I am coming to the conclusion that some on here are just cunts.

Dixie

I think it's a MN phenomenon this utter rage generated by buggies in wheelchair places threads. Is this even discussed anywhere else on the web?!

What's with all the starving babies?
Can you not just feed them before you get on the bus so they aren't hungry? If you were going on an aeroplane you'd make adequate arrangements in case you got caught out with a hungry waker going through security etc (which you have to do with no pram, carry on luggage etc) so why not anticipate it for a bus journey...

I remember when DB was small he had a big fuck off silver cross coach built pram. It was readily accepted that if he was in that pram-we didn't get on a bus, because we couldn't. That was that.
We therefore had an umbrella stroller and either put him under our arm and folded it as the bus arrived, shockingly even waking him up on occasion!

Or worse still, passed him to one of the many shaky handed, mass murdering, dirty paedophiles waiting in the bus queue so we could fold the buggy.

Gone to the dogs this country

No sense of community.

Cheshire It has been, and currently is being, extensively discussed on all social media groups that I used for my various health conditions. I wonder if you are a wheelchair user or a carer for someone with a wheelchair user. This isn't a discussion on a website; this is my painful, disabled, difficult life.

I should have imagined that disabled orientated groups will be discussing this TBF.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound dismissive candycoatedwaterdrops, it's just glancing at this thread sometimes makes me feel like I've stumbled into the twilight zone. Not the topic, but the approach!

I don't actually know anyone who uses a wheelchair, but I'd miss the social media discussions anyway, simply because I don't have an account for any of them.

Cheshire Well its all over the news for a start!

I'm sure there's better ways of describing groups that tackle various disabilities, but I can't think of one right now and didn't want to ignore your reply.

Honestly if you use a wheelchair, just getting out of the house is very difficult. Not just for a few years as with a baby, but for your whole life. Those who are giving excuses like a sleeping baby or feeding the baby, really don't have a clue how hard life is for anyone reliant on a wheelchair.

Dixie I would help you with your shopping etc if I saw you just don't ask me to hold the baby

Cheshire, obviously this is being discussed elsewhere. Look at the FB link near the beginning of the thread.

Fair point. I've actually not really had a look at the news today, most complex thing I can manage today is MN- and even that at a push.