To be annoyed with parents allowing their "just walking " toddlers to wander aimlessly

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When I'm on my lunch break I'm always in a rush to get stuff done. It's so annoying when parents allow their kids to toddle around and get in everyone's way. I have two children so I do know what it's like but mine were either on reins or had a hand firmly held.

How sad are we as a human race if a toddler walking slowly up stairs is a major trauma? If anyone said that to me and my child my response would be 'listen to yourself, you need to take a chill pill'

Why are there so many miserable entitled people about is beyond me!

I think some parents can be quite entitled, making everyone listen to their child's screeching, for example.

When my kids were little, I very rarely took them to coffee shops /restaurants as I knew there was a possibility they might do all the usual baby stuff and bother people, and I don't feel that I have an absolute right to do that. I would go to parks, walks, etc, days out all over, took sandwiches, and other food for them, and a flask for me, then there was no need for them to be wandering round coffee shops, or stuck in buggies.If we absolutely had to eat out, and if they cried, I would remove them straight away. Treat other people how you would like to be treated yourself I say.

Pootle40, it may be a major trauma if they are allowed to saunter up a very steep flight of stairs in say a railway station for example, when there are hundreds of people behind you trying to rush past with suitcases though,?

It could also be a major trauma if there was another roaming free toddler in front of you and their parent trying get past youcto catch them?

I'm sure some parents think this is a wonderful world where no accidents ever happen to their toddlers and they can roam free anywhere they like.

Can I also add that as soon as I'd finished feeding DS2 in an attempt to settle him (which obviously didn't work), I left. I didn't wait around for ages, I realise that no one wants to listen to a crying baby.

However, the comments I felt were unnecessary when I was doing my best to hurry up so I could leave. Having a baby that nearly died, had to have emergency surgery and the being fed through a tube is difficult enough. Just as I'd left the cafe (which was in a soft play area might I add), someone stopped me and said 'what's wrong with it?' pointing to the tube in DS2's nose.

Babies are babies and they will cry and make noises wherever they go. Anyone incapable of understanding that is a twat. Why are there so many miserable entitled people about is beyond me!
That has got to be the most ironic statement that I have read in a long time.

Ruby -- your post is SO patronizing and SO rude and SO passive-aggressive. Stop. You are fooling anyone.

Persiancatlady - completely agree with your last post

However, the comments I felt were unnecessary when I was doing my best to hurry up so I could leave. Having a baby that nearly died, had to have emergency surgery and the being fed through a tube is difficult enough
I can understand why you would feel angry and sad about that but other people weren't to know that your baby nearly died and even if they did know it doesn't mean that they want to listen to your baby crying.

Op it does cut both ways, which was why I said across the board
I'm from the school of thought to make allowance for the young and old, not to be intolerant of others, I do stand by what I said if people can't make allowances for others then what kind of person does that make them.

Bluesparklypants. But not too make allowances for ordinary busy people going about their day.

Yeah, I haven't birthed a child so presumably my day is just totally unimportant when up against the MIRACLE OF LIFE

Persian- I understand that. Surely they know just by looking at his NG tube on his face and the bandage on his arm that he had additional needs. I could justify their comments sat there for an hour or more and listened to him cry, but I was actually trying my best to get out of the place as quickly as possible.

Vintage -- you've got the definition for "live and let live" wrong. It means to let others carry on IF what they are doing does NOT affect you.
So in this case, your toddler is holding up everyone -- in other words, what you and your toddler are doing IS affecting others!
If however, your toddler is practicing walking in an open park where he is NOT holding up other people, and yet some crazy person comes along and gives you dirty looks, then that's when you can properly advise him to "live and let live".

If I*

No not in the same way op, we're not just learning to walk or ageing with all its problems, we're just caught up with self importance with our 'oh so busy' lives not really the same is it

There was a dad letting their very small child crawl in Zara the other day.
A worker there caught her just because she 'toddled' down the escalators.
She doesn't like being restrained apparently.

I agree with children running around in dangerous places it's not safe. Luckily for me Ds sits nicely at the table. However, if my 5mo Dd started crying I would not take her out. I'm a paying customer too and I imagine I would be in a family friendly restaurant seeing as we are a family out for a meal. If you don't like crying go somewhere thats not a FAMILY FRIENDLY restaurant/pub.
In the cold I would be expected to take her outside? Not a chance in hell!! You go out if you don't like it!

Bluesparkleypants. This has all been said earlier on the post but why take the condescending tone "oh so busy lives!" How on earth do you know why I'm busy. There have also been many posts from disabled people complaining about the dangers of wandering toddlers - so it isn't just me and my self importance!!

I picked one out of the street last week. Parents were walking ahead of me, dad with shopping, mum pushing buggy. Very small toddler with a toy buggy tipped herself off the pavement and into the road.

I'd picked her up and got her back on the pavement before mum turned around.

I also have nearly brained hundreds of them in supermarkets running headlong at basket height.

I'm a toddler learning to walk and excited to explore the world. There's nothing I find soooo annoying as really busy people trying to go about their day getting in my way. Don't they know I'm just as important as them?

We all have our struggles and hard times my point always being alittle tolerance goes along way. If we can be tolerant of the young, old then why wouldn't you

@charlestrenet - sorry, but your post is a load of hyperbolic bunkum doesn't reflect the reasonable views that have been expressed on here.

I don't think anyone is really saying toddlers shouldn't be allowed out except during certain hours - they are saying everyone should have a bit of common sense and consideration. If the supermarket isn't busy, the child isn't doing anything dangerous, and you have the time to wait a moment or go round them, then there's nothing wrong with a toddler toddling.

But if you are somewhere crowded - a busy railway station full of people rushing for trains, dragging their suitcases, or in a coffee shop with people carrying hot drinks around, or a busy shopping centre - maybe this is not the right place forms toddler to be practising their mobility.

But it is so much more fun to make a completely outrageous statement and claim that is what we are all saying, isn't it.

Fortunately I am one of those mothers who can get her child to calm down but it is unreasonable for you lot to expect that just because a child cries that they need to be made to be quiet because you lot get uncomfortable. I am also one of those parents who dislikes seeing children roaming freely and seemingly ruling their parents however I will not be made to feel less of a parent because entitled bitches think that the world revolves around them and that there isn't room for everyone else. That child has as much a right to be out whether in a restaurant, toddling (under supervision) as you have to being out and about. I have two children (8yo and 15months) and I have not had any of the incidences that you talk about because I believe in parenting my children. However I will not allow them to not be children because arses like you exist.